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Ive been told that Submerged cib will be revealed soon... I don't know any details but it's spposed to be a very visual penetration

Well they look good, but i'd never use any of these fancy cards in performance

Ace... Can they grab the bottle while the coin is falling? Im asking because im not sure if this is what yo meant

Oh I don't think Witness is worth the price it'll be seeing as you can get it in his notes. The instructions in his notes are perfectly fine, with even visual learners being able to pick it up no probs. I say get the notes as then you'll get Witness along with a bunch of others. Witness...

That was an absolutely terrible performance... Trust me, Witness looks WAY better when performed correctly.

So everything is happy agian I am gonna pick up Aces CIB at some point as I would like to see the workings behind it and learn how to accomplish his version of such an effect. Once I do I will post a thorough review on the cafe' and here. As this is about what's the best CIB, i'll post...

Lol I wouldn't say your a nerd Now if when you woke up your bed was wet... ;)

Someones trying to get noticed eh The Dark Angel ;) I actually agree with jimbowmanjr on most of what he said as for the most part it's true... I don't have anything against Ace though and am happy for his CIB to be discussed, but i'd rather hear the views from those who have it than always...

Yeah Bullet looks great... I wish I had got to see the Factory Sealed full trailer :( Nick Verna has also managed to go beyond any other CIB with something new he's been working on... he's a true innovator of our art. Matthew Mello is gonne be sharing some stunning stuff also.

Well said Jim :D And maybe the topic creator doesn't know what the extra sleights etc actually are, there names yes, but what they actually achieve maybe not. If you know something then be helpful and post, if not then either don't post or join in the discussion without complaining.

You have a nice overall idea, but at this time looks to need quite a bit of refining. One thing thats def no needed is when you replace the card in the middle of the deck... don't show that the card is not on the bottom or top, they've just seen it go in the center, I know it's to accomplish...

I know the points are all true... I meant that yoy say your goal from the off was to create a cib that had all the points you mentioned, yet I had only started hearing you say about as seperate objects after the release of Impervious. You should ask those who have yours to post full reviews...

Lol Ace you need to let those who have purchased yours give there opinion... though there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to. Don't go by reviews on someones personal website. I don't believe all your points as the seperate objects thing only came about after Impervious.

Yeah, stay away from the free effect sites Aswell as everyone elses points that have already been stated, you'll also more than likely be learning the sleights wrong which in the long run .will be problematic Also not all material is expensive, and there's christmas and birthdays etc

Ok, well I do agree with some of your ratings, but here are the ones that in MY opinion (stressing the word my lol) were too highly rated. Whoa... 10/10... I really don't think it's of that level at all. It's an ok effect that is, as you said, simple to do, but it's really not that...

Yeah, this can be troublesome but is much easier if you lead them along phsyically... like get them to hold out there hand, place card on and then take there other hand and place it on top. Also you have to communicate in a more visual way, like if I want them to take a card and to not let me...

Yeah Lucid Dreams is everything Mac has said plus more.

Good review This is a pretty good DVD, though I feel some of your ratings are a bit too high but then we all like different things. The CIB is really good though ;)

A bit harsh there Cory... I know what you mean but this is a different forum and so far Michael has just been being apart of the community.

I find it just as easy performing to those of a foreign language as those of the same, different approach, but magic is something that can be universally appreciated with no need for words to even be muttered. Now approaching them is a different matter lol