Are KEM cards good for Magic?

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These decks usually go for $35 apiece and the cheapest I've seen them is a little over $20, so I wandering if they were good for any magic or cardistry. They're made from plastic and I own a deck named Bicycle Prestige that is also made of plastic and is terrible for both magic and cardistry. I expect KEM cards to be just as bad from what I've seen of the Bicycle Prestige, but I could be wrong. Please reply.
 
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These decks usually go for $35 apiece and the cheapest I've seen them is a little over $20, so I wandering if they were good for any magic or cardistry. They're made from plastic and I own a deck named Bicycle Prestige that is also made of plastic and is terrible for both magic and cardistry. I expect KEM cards to be just as bad from what I've seen of the Bicycle Prestige, but I could be wrong. Please reply.

Well, here's the low-down:

They suck for cardistry. I'm not even going to debate that - they just do. Now, regarding magic:

First off, they come in sets of two, as far as KEM. Second, KEM cards are somewhat good for magic, but I've never tried performing with them. Mainly only have one deck I occasionally practice gambling sleights with, but here's the thing. Have you ever heard the arguement to practice with a bridge deck instead of a poker deck sometimes? That's
BS. Even people who play bridge play with a poker-sized deck nowadays... However, you are VERY likely to find a plastic deck in someone's house or on the spur of the moment if you wish to use those, so it is definitely worth practicing with.

Whereas a paper deck (Bikes, Bees, Tallies, etc.) will last you a month TOPS if you keep them in a pristine condition, plastic decks easily last for a few months and always feel the same for most of the duration of their lifetime, if you will. The only bad thing I can say about plastic decks is that:

1. I hate the f'ing feel - paper feels so much better. Don't know why, I just hate it.
2. After a few months, it will get a slight bend and warp that'll pretty much stay there, but the decks still last a really long time until that happens, and you'll be able to live with it for a bit.

All-in-all, I say you just buy a set and play with them, then decide what you think. I'd never use them for magic, like I said, I just bust 'em out for the occasional practice of gambling sleights.

My philosophy: Paper > plastic.

Hope that helped.
 
Plastic cards are obviously not good for any magic or cardistry routine unless it takes place underwater. However, let's not dismiss them as being ususeful at all.

I sometimes use KEM cards for practicing the bottom deal - as a more difficult challenge. It happened so many times to be handed a cheap, plastic, drugstore deck and be asked to perform something. With some practice with plastic cards I can eventually sqeeze more from that deck then an ambitious card routine.

Besides, they're quite decent for jacuzzi practice sessions. :)
 
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Plastic coated cards are obviously not good for any magic or cardistry routine unless it takes place underwater. However, let's not dismiss them as being ususeful at all.

I sometimes use KEM cards for practicing the bottom deal - as a more difficult challenge. It happened so many times to be handed a cheap, plastic, drugstore deck and be asked to perform something. With some practice with plastic cards I can eventually sqeeze more from that deck then an ambitious card routine.

Besides, they're quite decent for jacuzzi practice sessions. :)

Be sure to note the difference between "plastic cards" and "plastic coated". Sentinels are "plastic coated" on paper card stock, and handle real well. (IMO)
 
These decks usually go for $35 apiece and the cheapest I've seen them is a little over $20, so I wandering if they were good for any magic or cardistry. They're made from plastic and I own a deck named Bicycle Prestige that is also made of plastic and is terrible for both magic and cardistry. I expect KEM cards to be just as bad from what I've seen of the Bicycle Prestige, but I could be wrong. Please reply.
I have been playing high stokes poker for over 20 years and can tell you this...if you want to learn gambling slights and actually implement them into a live game amongst "fast company", learning with KEM cards or Copag cards is a necessity. However, if you simply want to perform great magic then stay away from them other than using them for your own personal card games. They are very hard to bend, hard to mark, but also hard to "handle" for card moves. This is one of the many reasons the pro players and casinos insist on using these kinds of cards for actual game play. Personally I would like to see more great card handlers using these cards. Jason England has demonstrated a few slights with them, but they are rarely seen in the hands of a magicians.
 
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