Card On Ceiling As a Stand Alone Effect

[Aposeadesse]

For a stage show, how would one organize some kind of larger patter sequence and make the effect more suitable for a larger audience. Also the effect can at most take 7 minutes because it is a talent show and that is the longest it can go. I am thinking about doing a deck production possibly with flash paper and than getting the volanteer. Asking them shuffle selecting the card signing it and returning it, than handing out the rubber band, which i will use in color to make the effect more vissable, rubber banding it and than throw it up to the ceiling. Are there any places to learn variations, like put cards in the the box, or to make it seem more impossible. Also I will be performing in french, not my native language, so it will take more time to speak the lines. What are your opinions.

 

[MitchellStafiej]

I think that stretching out the effect to 7 minutes might be a challenge. Not that it can't be done but I wouldn't recommend it. It's a rather short effect and by itself I doubt you'd be able to captivate your audience for a full 7 minutes.

Though if you have a well thought out patter and presentation perhaps you can pull it off!

Mitch

 

[Aposeadesse]

It does not have to be 7 minutes, it actually should be about 3 to 5, but it has to work as an individual trick, since it usually is a closer, that is why I chose it. Also do you see the need for a deck production?

 

[bd]

If you're going to "stretch the effect", then yes, you need the deck production - you need all you can get.

I would suggest doing a deck production, have the deck shuffled and examined, introduce the rubber bands (at which point you could do a quick rubber band trick), and proceed to to the Card To Ceiling effect.

As for my own personal suggestion, if I were in your shoes:

- I would produce the deck after showing my hands empty.
- Mix up the deck while a volunteer is walking up.
- Have the volunteer mix up the deck.
- Have a card selected.
- Insert the card in the deck and tie the rubber band around it, then have the card pop away from the deck, outside of the rubber band (there are different ways to do this, I prefer a simple special tie with the rubber band)
- Offer to take it one step further, introduce the card box again, insert the cards into the card box, tie one rubber band lengthways across the box, one rubberband width-wise around the box.
- Complete your card to ceiling effect.

With the right presentation, this could easily last you a few minutes.

Also, how big of an audience is this going to be? I don't recommend Card to Ceiling as a stage effect - most of your audience won't see it.

 

[Aposeadesse]

thanks for the suggestion, is there any particular material for a good deck production for stage magic? Also where do I obtain the more complex version of the trick? Lastly, auidience will probably be between 100 to max 200 in a cafeteria with 20 ft high ceilings, i have tested the view and its is pretty good I think.

 

[aznofspades]

I think it could work onstage. If you're doing multiple performances in the same venue what are you gonna do about the cards on the ceiling. You could do it as a failed Pick a Card trick, where you keep producing the wrong card and then finally you throw it up at the ceiling and it sticks. Go out into the crowd and maybe stick it over there. How high is the ceiling.

Check my signature. I did a similar kinda show, except in Spanish.

 

[Aposeadesse]

Thanks for the suggestions. 2 things, 1 where do i get a suitable beck production for being on stage and 2 is it worth learning the variation to the trick where it is put in the box. Lastly should i incorporate flourishes while shuffleing the deck. The stage is more or less just a 2 foot high platform in my cafeteria, the ceiling is about 20 ft high so it should be visible for the 150 or so people.

Nice performance, i am doing mine in french, the effect is not to dragged out because of calling up and audience member, who i have preselected and speaking a non native language.

 

[aznofspades]

Mine's pretty short. Less than 3 minutes.

Flash cards are really good for memorizing your script.

I think you should have them pick a card and pretend to lose it and produce the wrong cards like twice. Get mad and put the deck away in the box like you're gonna move onto something new and then throw it at the ceiling.

Just an idea.

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Yea that's what I did. I found an audience member to help me beforehand and then called them up later.

 

[Aposeadesse]

Thanks, i have decided to just pull the deck out, deck productions work better in close up, parlor or street magic venues. I twill be in a nice way, side ways spinning catch it, twirl the deck in the the box and get the card box open with one hand and make them come forward by jerking my hand so that they are 1/2 out of the box, than pulling them out and putting the box in my pocket. as for the actual performance i will have the deck mixed by an audience member pre-selected and arranged, riffle through the deck and get them a card, have them sign it fan the deck let them put it any where push it in, I shuffle, than produce a wrong card using a shoot out move, not sure what it is called, but it is one handed and you launch it with your thumb, and have pointer on the top of the deck and one figure on the small side and the other two underneath/ I might teach the assistant how to catch the card as well. than I will put it back in the deck, do a flourishy cut, a mix of lethal with my own variation. introduce a rubber band, have it inspected wrap it around the deck and than throw it at the ceiling.

 

[aznofspades]

Hm. I still like my idea of acting like you're done and then randomly throwing the cards at the ceiling.

If you wanted to do that, just keep the cards in like a rubber band instead of a case, (it makes the ending more logical. Then when you pull it out you can put the bands on your wrist do a Cascade flourish and go on from there.

Before you throw it at the ceiling, I think you should flash the top and bottom cards as not their card.

 

[Per_H]

You could also produce the cards in any matter you like and then vanish the card box. Then perform a short ambicious card routine before going into card on ceiling.

 

[mse&nc]

How can it be in french if it isn't your native language?
The place you describe reminds me very much of a school in France : Lycée Inter

 

[Aposeadesse]

I like the idea of keeping the cards in a rubber band such that the trick makes more sense, so I will ditch the card box before I start. I will ditch the box right before, because keeping cards rubber-banded ruins the cards over time, but should the helper still check the rubber band? The vanish is not needed because I will fill it in with the mixing and my patter. The key phrase of the script will be Je pense danc je suis, the famous Descartes line. I have taken French for 5 years or more, so I am able to speak. It is for international night and there will only be limited speaking. Plus I know all the words to call the cards and simple command form directions and statements of what I am going to do.

 

[aznofspades]

Don't have them inspect the rubber band. Unless you think they're going to suspect the rubber band as part of the trick.

I think therefore I am?

 

[Aposeadesse]

Yup, that will be the the key phrase, worked into the patter, not that all those people in the audience who don't speak french will understand but still a worthy line to include. Should I use a fatish rubber band, so the audience can see it or should I use a color rubber band to make it more visible, or just go with the standard beige rubber band, preferably darker in color as to make it more visible with a medium fatness, so it is not strange in any way?

 

[aznofspades]

Just go with whatever you think is natural. You could make a joke out of chasing the spectator around with the rubber band.

Can we hear your patter, in English?