Christmas!

[wZEnigma]

Hey everyone, I have a few questions regarding my Christmas list. So far, this is the full list:

Expert Card Technique
card Magic for Amateurs and Professionals - Bill Simon
Card Control - Arthur Buckley
Half Brick of Tally-Ho's, Half Red Half Blue
Extreme Burn
Pressure
Art of Astonishment Vol. 3

A few questions I have:

1. In Andrew Mayne's Hypercards, can you hand out the linked cards for a souvenir? If not, is there a linking card effect where this can be done?
2. For impromptu magic, which is better: On the Spot by Greg Wilson or Anytime Anywhere by Sankey?
3. Are the books above good? I have ECT in ebook form, so I don't know if I really want the book, but it's handy. Any additional book recommendations would be nice.
4. I'm looking to expand my repertoire, but still deal a lot with cards. Any recommendations there would be nice. I've looked at Distortion by WH, for example.
5. I want to mix cardistry with magic but not be a total cardist. Recommendations here would be nice. Some manipulation that you mix into your magic act, as an opener/closer or convincing cut.

Thanks in advance and sorry about the long post.

Ian

 

[Ravenwest]

Pressure is a good effect but it has to be done as an closer...but for $20 I wouldn'get it...

5. Do you have the Trilogy? They have some nice manipulations you can throw into your effects.

 

[AsherF]

3. Are the books above good? I have ECT in ebook form, so I don't know if I really want the book, but it's handy. Any additional book recommendations would be nice.

I would still get it in book form. who knows if your computer will break down or not and you lose all your files. plus it's good to have portable copies. Tricks Of The Mind by Derren Brown has been incredible to me so far. Not only in terms of mentalism based stuff, but in magic as well. I highly recommend it, to anyone. I've had non magic family members read it and love it. They found it incredibly intelligent.

4. I'm looking to expand my repertoire, but still deal a lot with cards. Any recommendations there would be nice. I've looked at Distortion by WH, for example.

AOA will help you in these regards.

5. I want to mix cardistry with magic but not be a total cardist. Recommendations here would be nice. Some manipulation that you mix into your magic act, as an opener/closer or convincing cut.

Genesis has been extremely beneficial for me in this department. I've tried many different series' but so far this is the only one to give me the necessary jump start. The first one is essentials, so you won't get big long fancy cardist only cuts, but you will get very nice things to work with and make you look like you know what you are doing with a deck of cards rather than a show off.

 

[SKSleighofHand]

3. Are the books above good? I have ECT in ebook form, so I don't know if I really want the book, but it's handy. Any additional book recommendations would be nice.

Card Control and Expert Card Technique are SO worth the money. You could also buy The Paper Engine and Expert at Card Table. About the E-Book, I agreed with AsherF. Personally, I would like to have a copy of my own and I never really trust the E-book because it could crash and I would lose all of my files. Any book recommendations is all I can think of. I don't expect you to take my word, but really, it's your choice.

5. I want to mix cardistry with magic but not be a total cardist. Recommendations here would be nice. Some manipulation that you mix into your magic act, as an opener/closer or convincing cut.

If you ask me, I do cardistry and magic as well, but I tend to focus on magic for now. However, doing cardistry is a great hobby to spare some time and also, it improves your handling of the cards. Try not to incorporate cardistry into magic for the audience because the audience will think that you just have fast hands rather than magic. On the good side, it shows the audience that you are serious in card magic by showing off your skills. I recommend learning the basics first off on youtube. Some dvds that includes cardsitry are Genesis by Andrei Jikh, Dangerous Motion by d+m and The Trilogy by The Buck Twins.

I don't think Pressure is worth the money. It's just my opinion, basically. Again, don't take my word for it. It's your own choice.

 

[Nino]

I suggest you pick up The Royal Road to Card Magic. It has some great stuff in there and also its only $10. Remember the simple is better.

 

[wZEnigma]

5. Do you have the Trilogy? They have some nice manipulations you can throw into your effects.

I have the PDF bundle.

Genesis has been extremely beneficial for me in this department. I've tried many different series' but so far this is the only one to give me the necessary jump start. The first one is essentials, so you won't get big long fancy cardist only cuts, but you will get very nice things to work with and make you look like you know what you are doing with a deck of cards rather than a show off.

I've looked at other cardistry DVDs and have not been pleased with the selections. Genesis seems like it's a more exclusive type of flourishing, like an acquired taste. And I don't know if it's worth the 35 bucks to get something I end up not liking. My style of cardistry so far basically consists of two-handed flashy cuts, but Genesis does have smaller flourishes that might fit well.

You could also buy The Paper Engine and Expert at Card Table.

Paper Engine is something I've been looking at, but I'm unsure. I've read EATCT a lot, and can get it from my library.

I suggest you pick up The Royal Road to Card Magic. It has some great stuff in there and also its only $10. Remember the simple is better.

The thing is, these books that are "only $10" add up. The books on my list, plus Royal Road, Expert, Bobo, etc...they add up fast. And it's never "only" said amount. And I happen to have Royal Road in ebook form as well. Ironic.

Thanks for the help guys. Basically, I'm thinking Genesis might be the best way to go with cardistry, and that books are better than ebooks (general consensus). More information on those topics or the unanswered ones would be great.

Ian

Ian

 

[UnknownMagician93]

Showmanship for Magicians by Dariel Fitzke is brilliant if you intend to perform, which sincerely hope you do.

 

[RasmusAndersen]

Pressure is a good effect but it has to be done as an closer...but for $20 I wouldn'get it...

What a strange thing to say. Why on earth does it absolutely have to be done as a closer? 100 % not true..
And wow, someone's a little broke, huh'? 20 bucks is not at all much, especially for such a great impromptu effect like that!

I've looked at other cardistry DVDs and have not been pleased with the selections. Genesis seems like it's a more exclusive type of flourishing, like an acquired taste. And I don't know if it's worth the 35 bucks to get something I end up not liking. My style of cardistry so far basically consists of two-handed flashy cuts, but Genesis does have smaller flourishes that might fit well.

Oh come on! Stop acting so professional, like you really have "your own style".. Jesus, how can you even tell one style from another in flourishing? Especially when your experience (or lack thereof) in cardistry is taking into consideration.
And really, 35$ is nothing for that crazy amount of moves.. At least some of it HAS to fit "your style".
It is a really good DVD to get you started, which seems to me is what you want.

 

[wZEnigma]

What a strange thing to say. Why on earth does it absolutely have to be done as a closer? 100 % not true..
And wow, someone's a little broke, huh'? 20 bucks is not at all much, especially for such a great impromptu effect like that!



Oh come on! Stop acting so professional, like you really have "your own style".. Jesus, how can you even tell one style from another in flourishing? Especially when your experience (or lack thereof) in cardistry is taking into consideration.
And really, 35$ is nothing for that crazy amount of moves.. At least some of it HAS to fit "your style".
It is a really good DVD to get you started, which seems to me is what you want.

I am actually kinda broke. Acting rich and all cool isn't really.

And I do have a style. I'm not trying to be "professional". We all differ as magicians, and that's a fact. Everyone is distinct. So tell me Dai Vernon and the Bucks have the same presentation.

Ian

 

[RasmusAndersen]

I am actually kinda broke. Acting rich and all cool isn't really.

I was referring to Ravenwest, who said he wouldn't get it for 20$, which is pretty much pure BS advice. It is a great effect, well worth those 20 bucks.

And I do have a style. I'm not trying to be "professional". We all differ as magicians, and that's a fact. Everyone is distinct. So tell me Dai Vernon and the Bucks have the same presentation.

We are not talking about presentation, but about moves..
But awww, come on, really.. You barely know enough flourishes to be calling yourself a flourisher (right?), and yet you have already found your own style.. Please, just get Genesis and maybe some other DVD's later, and THEN decide if you really have your own style.
I think it is pretty ignorant and unnecessary to be claiming you have your own style in your level of experience..

 

[wZEnigma]

I was referring to Ravenwest, who said he wouldn't get it for 20$, which is pretty much pure BS advice. It is a great effect, well worth those 20 bucks.



We are not talking about presentation, but about moves..
But awww, come on, really.. You barely know enough flourishes to be calling yourself a flourisher (right?), and yet you have already found your own style.. Please, just get Genesis and maybe some other DVD's later, and THEN decide if you really have your own style.
I think it is pretty ignorant and unnecessary to be claiming you have your own style in your level of experience..

Oh ok. It looks like a great effect.

I flourish somewhat, not enough to make myself a name for it, no, but I do flourish. I know what I like though. I've seen enough to see what I like and what I don't. I don't think it's ignorant. I'm just looking at cardistry I want to do. What's the point of buying a cardistry DVD for 40 bucks if you dislike the material?

Ian

 

[AsherF]

The thing about Genesis is that it teaches the ESSENTIALS. Stuff that all flourishers, no matter their "style" will need to know. the essential one hand cuts, shuffles, springs, etc... Jikh does teach original material, yes, but even if you're against using his material, their are enough Essentials on this dvd to make it worth your money. I know he's going to get into "material" later. Take it like a musician, these are like the scales and chords. He doesn't throw his own personal style at you here. I found it easier than most to develop my own style using this dvd than any others. This first one at least, I don't see as a dvd of Andrei Jikh flourishes. These are the building blocks that you NEED to take on any flourish of your choice, any style that you prefer. Because no matter who's material you try, more than likely you will need to know these moves in order to accomplish them. And here's the place to start.

 

[jezzicaz789]

Pressure is a good effect but it has to be done as an closer...but for $20 I wouldn'get it...

5. Do you have the Trilogy? They have some nice manipulations you can throw into your effects.

Hi all!
I've just visited this forum. Happy to get acquainted with you. Thanks.

 

[christian1]

Hey everyone, I have a few questions regarding my Christmas list. So far, this is the full list:

Expert Card Technique
card Magic for Amateurs and Professionals - Bill Simon
Card Control - Arthur Buckley
Half Brick of Tally-Ho's, Half Red Half Blue
Extreme Burn
Pressure
Art of Astonishment Vol. 3

A few questions I have:

1. In Andrew Mayne's Hypercards, can you hand out the linked cards for a souvenir? If not, is there a linking card effect where this can be done?
2. For impromptu magic, which is better: On the Spot by Greg Wilson or Anytime Anywhere by Sankey?
3. Are the books above good? I have ECT in ebook form, so I don't know if I really want the book, but it's handy. Any additional book recommendations would be nice.
4. I'm looking to expand my repertoire, but still deal a lot with cards. Any recommendations there would be nice. I've looked at Distortion by WH, for example.
5. I want to mix cardistry with magic but not be a total cardist. Recommendations here would be nice. Some manipulation that you mix into your magic act, as an opener/closer or convincing cut.

Thanks in advance and sorry about the long post.

Ian

Hey Ian,

Sounds like your getting some great stuff!!

"4. I'm looking to expand my repertoire, but still deal a lot with cards. Any recommendations there would be nice. I've looked at Distortion by WH, for example."

Okay I would recomend getting Mark Wilsons Comlete Course in Magic its a amazing book! Has tons of material lots of veriaty and is a good way to expand past cards. It also has some good card routines. Another Great book is Bobo's coin magic.

"2. For impromptu magic, which is better: On the Spot by Greg Wilson or Anytime Anywhere by Sankey?"

Not sure about On the Spot but I own Anytime Anywhere. It a great dvd but I have found the effects to be slightly lacking. It has a ton of material and some pretty good stuff. Gives you a pretty good bang for your buck but I really didn't find much usable stuff. To be honest I thought the material was very average. The effects ,though impromptu, were not that powerful of material.

Just my take on things hope this was helpful,

Christian

 

[wZEnigma]

Hey Ian,

Sounds like your getting some great stuff!!

"4. I'm looking to expand my repertoire, but still deal a lot with cards. Any recommendations there would be nice. I've looked at Distortion by WH, for example."

Okay I would recomend getting Mark Wilsons Comlete Course in Magic its a amazing book! Has tons of material lots of veriaty and is a good way to expand past cards. It also has some good card routines. Another Great book is Bobo's coin magic.

"2. For impromptu magic, which is better: On the Spot by Greg Wilson or Anytime Anywhere by Sankey?"

Not sure about On the Spot but I own Anytime Anywhere. It a great dvd but I have found the effects to be slightly lacking. It has a ton of material and some pretty good stuff. Gives you a pretty good bang for your buck but I really didn't find much usable stuff. To be honest I thought the material was very average. The effects ,though impromtue, were not that powerful of material.

Just my take on things hope this was helpful,

Christian

I have Wilson's. I've said that several times in past posts, but if I didn't have it I wouldn't be here right now. Thanks for the opinions.

Ian

 

[blakehensley]

What a strange thing to say. Why on earth does it absolutely have to be done as a closer? 100 % not true..
And wow, someone's a little broke, huh'? 20 bucks is not at all much, especially for such a great impromptu effect like that!



Oh come on! Stop acting so professional, like you really have "your own style".. Jesus, how can you even tell one style from another in flourishing? Especially when your experience (or lack thereof) in cardistry is taking into consideration.
And really, 35$ is nothing for that crazy amount of moves.. At least some of it HAS to fit "your style".
It is a really good DVD to get you started, which seems to me is what you want.

dude chill out. you do have to go all "JESUS" on us. an yeah actually you can have sifferent style in cardistry.

 

[praetoritevong]

Hey everyone, I have a few questions regarding my Christmas list. So far, this is the full list:

Expert Card Technique
card Magic for Amateurs and Professionals - Bill Simon
Card Control - Arthur Buckley
Half Brick of Tally-Ho's, Half Red Half Blue
Extreme Burn
Pressure
Art of Astonishment Vol. 3

A few questions I have:

1. In Andrew Mayne's Hypercards, can you hand out the linked cards for a souvenir? If not, is there a linking card effect where this can be done?
2. For impromptu magic, which is better: On the Spot by Greg Wilson or Anytime Anywhere by Sankey?
3. Are the books above good? I have ECT in ebook form, so I don't know if I really want the book, but it's handy. Any additional book recommendations would be nice.
4. I'm looking to expand my repertoire, but still deal a lot with cards. Any recommendations there would be nice. I've looked at Distortion by WH, for example.
5. I want to mix cardistry with magic but not be a total cardist. Recommendations here would be nice. Some manipulation that you mix into your magic act, as an opener/closer or convincing cut.

Thanks in advance and sorry about the long post.

Ian

2. I prefer On the Spot personally.
3. The books are all excellent.
4. 52 Memories. Essential Stewart James. The Cardician. Anything from Vernon. Solomon's Mind. The Herb Zarrow book that escapes my mind.
5. Check out Buckley when you get it