No Stupid Questions

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by 010rusty, Sep 11, 2020.

  1. The magic community has always been fairly close, and often called a brotherhood. That being said I have always had a small problem with the community: JUDGEMENT! I've always felt that newer magicians are often confused, but also too afraid to ask questions. I have been on many negative magic forums (this is not one of them). Many of them involve a nice newer magician ask what I believe to be a reasonable question, but is immediately met with rude and disrespectful know-it-alls. That is why I have created what I believe to a fine solution. I have made a google forum where you can ask a completely anonymous question. Every two weeks or so I will come back to this thread and post all the questions that have been gathered, and everyone on the forums can then answer these questions (no one will know who wrote what. Not even me). I do believe this is a perfect way for curious magicians to gain necessary information in order to become better performers.

    To begin here are some of the common questions magicians have that receive occasionally ugly responses.

    Why is Learning magic on YouTube bad?

    Why is riffling down the back of the deck to get a pinky break wrong? If the spectator doesn't know what they are looking for and I won't get caught why can't I do it?

    Why is it wrong to teach a spectator one measly trick?

    Why should I read magic books instead of watching DVDs?

    Why is it wrong to do a trick with my mouth?

    Who is this Dai Vernon everyone praises?

    Is it normal to get nervous and shaky before every performance?

    So, there they are I understand many reading this very well may wonder these vary same questions. However, many probably have answers. There we have it you may ask, you may answer, or you may do both. Just remember there is no such thing as a stupid question.
     
  2. ...this is a really excellent step.

    I'm not sure if you posted the sample questions with the purpose of them being answered too those are definitely valid questions. I think the reason discussions around those topics get heated are because those are typically controversial issues.

    The only thing I'd be careful about is questions which have been repeated a lot in the past and whose responses don't typically change, for example tips concerning a Classic Pass or merits and demerits of different ways of getting a pinky break, probably haven't changed drastically in the last couple of years.

    Discussions and opinions around the whole You Tube topic however keep flickering because with every year something or the other happens that makes both the naysayers and yaysayers question their opinion.

    But again, people getting into magic should totally have the freedom to ask anything at all. (regarding magic as an art form)

    Great idea!

    :)
     
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  3. Where do magic babies come from?
    And
    What's the difference between street and parlor magic? I've heard they are different categories but usually associated as the same thing
     
  4. Magic storks, of course.

    Street magic is done outside on a street. Parlor magic is done inside in a parlor.

    But seriously, street magic can really be one of two things. It can be busking, which is very close to parlor magic. That is, the magician is standing up in front of a group of people (10 to 50) performing effects such as cups & balls, linking rings, etc. The performance space is delineated and set up so all the people can see what is going on (think Gazzo). Street magic can also be stand-up close-up magic. That is, the magician is with a small group of people (3 to 5) and is performing magic standing among the people (think David Blaine)
     
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  5. Because the quality of instruction is generally very poor and focused on the physical method, which is only a small fraction of what is needed to perform good magic. There is also frequently a complete lack of crediting, as well as outright exposure of commercial or unreleased effects or routines that the 'teacher' has no permission to be revealing. Doing so is extremely demotivating to the creators and is part of why there is so much crap on the market - creators don't want to release material they actually are proud of because it's upsetting to see it revealed shortly thereafter.



    Anything that doesn't add to the experience of the effect detracts from it. Therefore, any excessive moments, sounds, etc. should be eliminated in favor of the clarity and impact of the effect.


    Not necessarily "wrong" in and of itself, but it will likely detract from the impact of the performance itself. It takes magic out of the realm of the seemingly impossible and puts it into the clearly possible but tricky. Magic should be an escape for the audience, by teaching them a trick you are removing that escapism.


    Cost effectiveness, quality of instruction, and sheer volume of information. Not to mention videos lend themselves to copying, rather than simply learning. There's centuries of magic in books - DVDs/video will never catch up with that.


    Saliva is gross. No one wants to


    Dai Vernon (short for David Vernon, June 11, 1894 – August 21, 1992) was a Canadian magician who moved to New York, then California, and was widely regarded as one of the most knowledgeable and skilled practitioners of sleight of hand at the time. Several of today's prominent professional magicians were students of his.

    Yes. This can be overcome in several ways - practicing and rehearsing properly, performing as often as possible, proper diet and exercise, meditation, and so on - but it is perfectly normal and most performers have some form of jitters. A good performer learns to control it and direct that energy into their performances.
     
  6. Okay, I only got 2 new questions. They are:
    Can’t tell if 010rusty is Trolling or Serious?

    Why do people not use the criss cross cut force more often? It really is an incredibly deceptive move.

    Now, I actually will answer the first one. I understand how I often post satirical and silly threads. This one is not one of those. I genuinely want a place where magicians can ask the most ridiculous and outlandish questions without critism. All the way from "how do I work for criss angel" or "is it normal to like magic but not like performing" all the way to "is buying bootlegs tricks from wish.com really wrong?"
     
  7. Yes.

    It's simple.
     
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  8. There are also a lot, lot of magicians who aren't confident with the idea of this move even though it's way more logical than all the riffle-types of force. Spread-types of force are of course, miles better, but then the idea of having a member physically pick out a card from a spread is so cliched that it's hard to push in any sense of individuality in there. Maybe a magician's ego gets in the way? Maybe they think they will be caught very easily?

    But I'll add that people not using a particular move and you not being able to see people using a particular move, are two different things. Magicians cut more than cards, is all I'll say. ;)
     
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  9. Ok, question round up:
    Do you think Wayne Houchin's French Kiss overused? If so, why?

    Discuss a bit more abt the cross cut force and y its so less used. Y's it bad that it's simple?

    You mentioned this on the forum, but no one answered it and I'm curious: Is it ok to buy magic from wish?? Wouldn't the creator have to give permission for it to be sold on there?

    Once again, I'm leaving this up to the more knowledgeable.
     
  10. Yes, it has been over used, but so has pretty much every popular magic trick on the market. Be original.

    Because too many people associate difficult with good. In reality the best thing to use is the method that allows you to create the effect with as little compromise as possible.

    Wish sells a ton of counterfeit/pirated products. I don't actually recommend buying anything from Wish, let alone magic. If there's a magic product on there, it's probably a fake.
     
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  11. Yes it's overused. Because it inherently has a ''bold and romantic'' character maybe? I don't think it's a coincidence that so many male magicians do it on females.

    But I wonder if non-magicians think it's overused... o_O


    Again, magicians love difficult moves for some reason. It doesn't harm to increase your arsenal, but that also doesn't mean that the forces which aren't the cross cut force are necessarily more deceiving.

    But the force used should be in the context of the effect and not seem jarring to the flow of the effect.
     
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