Rabid: I marvel at your audacity to imply my intentions from my post. Thanks - but unlike some, I don't need to criticise people, or post on a forum, to "sound" intellectual. I'd read you my "intellectual" qualifications, but I frankly don't give a damn whether you or anyone else think that I'm intelligent or not. Either you are one of the most arrogant, conceited people on Ellusionist to presume what I thought when I wrote this post, or you are the best damn mindreader since Kreskin, because you obviously don't know me at all. Some people may take amusement from posting on forums. Some people may well use magic as a social crutch. But don't assume that I or that everyone does. I don't know who you hang around, but I am perfectly confident in my intellectual and social capacities as a person and need neither your approval nor the approval of anyone on this forum to succeed in life. It is clear that you take any attack as a personal one (why else would you respond with a personal attack), but I don't function that way. So congratulations - take your ad hominem win.
As for your comment about the charlier pass, I think that you and I have a different definition of magic. A spectator being impressed at a one hand cut is not the same as magic. If you think it is... Good for you. I have no hope of changing that perspective. Go off and do charlier passes.
Finally, as to the "content" of your post, I feel that you've missed the point along with Formula below you. Sure, you may well be able to come up with a decent presentation. Maybe you're satisfied with decent. That's your choice. I am not. Let me repeat that.
I AM NOT SATISFIED WITH DECENT!
P.S.
A thought.
There were two people who came over to T11 specifically from E to comment on this thread. Both were thoroughly insulting and offered little more than poor attempts at ridicule and ad hominem attacks. Rabid, Sonicstabber, you are EXACTLY why I did not post this at E. Rather than engage with my opinions like RealityOne attempted to do, Rabid attacked my personal character, Sonicstabber was extraordinarily presumptive, and exaggerated/ignored my arguments. Aren't you both moderators, no less? And you wonder why on earth some people have negative opinions of Ellusionist.
Sheesh...for someone who doesn't care or has better things to do, you sure do get yourself worked up, don't you?
In all honesty - and in your defence - your post caught me at the end of a particularly bad day and whilst I stand by what I said and think, I really shouldn't have aimed immaturity and ignorance at you on an open forum as that was just rude...and I'd apologise for it...if it weren't for what you then went and typed. So i take back the apology that I was going to give you, but didn't.
You marvel at my audacity to imply your intentions from your post? I didn't imply anything buddy, I stated my opinion, which was that you obviously wrote your post to sound intellectual, and in that, you failed. You've done nothing since to change that opinion of you, so I'll keep it. Telling people to re-read what you've written is good advice, I'd advise you to take it, and re-read what you've written.
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There are two people who came over to T11 specifically from E to comment on this thread..." I can't speak for Eddie, but I would have seen this thread soon enough as I frequent both establishments. I would have answered the same, albeit potentially less abrasively if I'd come across it here later than I did.
"Both were thoroughly insulting and offered little more than poor attempts at ridicule and ad hominem attacks..." Untrue. That was just me, Eddie was quite polite. I take offense to the 'poor attempts' bit too. I think I did pretty well in ridiculing you. Also I did engage with your opinions...you just don't like the way I did it, much in the same way that I did not like your original post. Am I to assume that you think you're allowed to do something and I'm not?
The moderator thing is just plain pointless in this argument. What does it have to do with anything, anything at all? Do you mean that for some reason I'm not allowed an opinion as I'm a moderator on a forum? Bit odd. To me, flinging the moderator thing at me is as annoying and ridiculous as throwing fanboy at you, is to you. Insomuch, I reserve the right to level the imbecile and ignorant tag at you too. All's fair in love n' war n' all that.
Re: the Charlier Pass thing...again, you like to state your opinion on what magic is, isn't, should be, but isn't it about what the spectator thinks? That was my only point when mentioning that person coming up to me over something that, to people like us, is so nondescript.
Overall, you seem to be more off-balanced than I originally thought. The delusions of grandeur come off you like smoke from a stubbed out cigarette. Some sort of counseling may help you, I don't know. I don't doubt for one solitary second that you're more skillful, experienced and magically well read than me, it concerns me not. I'm open about my involvement in magic as a hobby and a passion, and that I have no desire to perform it for a living. I have a living, I do not need a new one. That being said, when one comes across an ego of such stature...it's only natural to want to push it over.
Call me old fashioned, but if one desires to state an opinion in such a fashion as to aggravate others, then that person should be willing to take the good with the bad when it comes to people replying to them.
Kind Regards and the warmest of wishes
Steph