Hello T11,
I wanted to run this by the community before making any further decisions, even though I found the concept by myself. I doubt it is in any way original, but I have not been able to find it anywhere and I wonder what you think. What would you say are the pros and cons of this particular system?
The idea is a modification of the Si Stebbins concept of stacked decks; however, it is not directly taken from the CHSD+3 stack used for Si Stebbins, but rather a variant I was taught by my friend, whose name contributes to the Young name of the Skyhawk-Young-Parker Arrangement. In the same terminology as I used, it is derived from the HSCD+4 stack.
What I was taught was a stack that is formed as follows: number-wise, each card is +4 from the one above it, while the suits follow what was originally referred to the House of CD order. HSCD. So for instance the Ace of Hearts is above the 5 of Spades which lies on top of the 9 of Clubs, etc. I originally wanted to see it because it seemed to solve a problem of the Si Stebbins: the red/black alternation of the suit colors. Turned out this method was no better :-/
During classes, I then tried to find out ways to solve this issue. Now I'm a practical person, but not too creative, so the solution might sound too simple to some, though your mileage may vary. What I ended up doing was this: Keeping the Young* order, implement an additional rule:
- If the card is odd (A 3 5 7 9 J or K), then go forward by suit, H -> S -> C -> D. For instance, King of Spades is followed by the 4 of Clubs.
- If the card is EVEN, however, reverse the suit progression immediately. Thus, H <- S <- C <- D. The 4 of Diamonds would then be followed by the 8 of CLUBS.
Honestly, I didn't even think it would work. But when I found out that it formed a closed complete loop (i.e. all the cards were accounted for and the progression loops back upon itself) I instinctively double-checked to see if I messed up somewhere. I did not, and I analyzed the distribution of the colors. In a nutshell, in contrast with the original series, you could NOT predict the next color to show up.
I'll be uploading documentation proving my results, but for now I think it wouldn't be too hard to check for yourself (not that I'm asking you to). I desire your comments, though but before you ask, yes, I am aware that the spectator doesn't really mind (or see) too much in real performance and that there are better (although more complex) systems such as the Osterlind system (which I possess). I only ask for comments pertaining to the possible merits and/or inherent flaws of this system and whether it would be good to use in a real performing environment.
I await your response
Sean
*I later found out this exact system was used in Kevin Parker's Psnype effect, leading me to believe that my friend learned it from him; hence the "Parker" addendum to the stack name.
I wanted to run this by the community before making any further decisions, even though I found the concept by myself. I doubt it is in any way original, but I have not been able to find it anywhere and I wonder what you think. What would you say are the pros and cons of this particular system?
The idea is a modification of the Si Stebbins concept of stacked decks; however, it is not directly taken from the CHSD+3 stack used for Si Stebbins, but rather a variant I was taught by my friend, whose name contributes to the Young name of the Skyhawk-Young-Parker Arrangement. In the same terminology as I used, it is derived from the HSCD+4 stack.
What I was taught was a stack that is formed as follows: number-wise, each card is +4 from the one above it, while the suits follow what was originally referred to the House of CD order. HSCD. So for instance the Ace of Hearts is above the 5 of Spades which lies on top of the 9 of Clubs, etc. I originally wanted to see it because it seemed to solve a problem of the Si Stebbins: the red/black alternation of the suit colors. Turned out this method was no better :-/
During classes, I then tried to find out ways to solve this issue. Now I'm a practical person, but not too creative, so the solution might sound too simple to some, though your mileage may vary. What I ended up doing was this: Keeping the Young* order, implement an additional rule:
- If the card is odd (A 3 5 7 9 J or K), then go forward by suit, H -> S -> C -> D. For instance, King of Spades is followed by the 4 of Clubs.
- If the card is EVEN, however, reverse the suit progression immediately. Thus, H <- S <- C <- D. The 4 of Diamonds would then be followed by the 8 of CLUBS.
Honestly, I didn't even think it would work. But when I found out that it formed a closed complete loop (i.e. all the cards were accounted for and the progression loops back upon itself) I instinctively double-checked to see if I messed up somewhere. I did not, and I analyzed the distribution of the colors. In a nutshell, in contrast with the original series, you could NOT predict the next color to show up.
I'll be uploading documentation proving my results, but for now I think it wouldn't be too hard to check for yourself (not that I'm asking you to). I desire your comments, though but before you ask, yes, I am aware that the spectator doesn't really mind (or see) too much in real performance and that there are better (although more complex) systems such as the Osterlind system (which I possess). I only ask for comments pertaining to the possible merits and/or inherent flaws of this system and whether it would be good to use in a real performing environment.
I await your response
Sean
*I later found out this exact system was used in Kevin Parker's Psnype effect, leading me to believe that my friend learned it from him; hence the "Parker" addendum to the stack name.