What do they mean, "What's your character?"

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Josh Burch, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. Hey everyone,
    I feel like older magicians are very keen on asking young guys what their character is. I think it would help us to be able to define our own characters if we understand how to identify others characters. Perhaps we could make a list of what we get from other magicians characters. I don't think there are any wrong answers here. I'll name a few here to start, please add and critique my list as you see fit. I'll include what I think their character is in one sentence and why they perform their magic in another.

    Derren Brown- I see him as a legitimate mind reader with real world psychological know how the only reason he claims it's fake is because it's the moral thing to do. He performs make people question why they do things and how they do things by sharing his unique perspective on life.

    David Copperfield- Is a dreamer, poet heart throb and romantic. He performs in order to make his and his audiences dreams become true.

    Please add to the list
     
  2. Penn & Teller: Vaudville variety act, talking loudmouth and silent foil.

    Criss Angel: Rocker-Goth rockstar Tv persona.

    David Blaine: Half stoned every day guy who does impossible things.

    Max Mavin: If not Satan himself, then he certainly works for him.

    Lance Burton: Sophistcated classy magician. Elligant.

    Channing Pollock: Classy, sexy, charming entertainer.

    Doug Henning: magic that looks at the world with a child like innocence and wonder.

    Dan Sperry: Industrial Goth, edgy magic.

    Yuri Gellar: "real" mentalist with "real" psychic powers.

    Jeff McBride: Theatrical story teller with shamanistic influences.
     
  3. Dan and Dave Buck - cool, creative cardists and magicians
     
  4. I would actually encourage people to refrain from using vague suggestive and over used words like "cool" or "creative" as it doesn't achieve a clear and objective deffenition of character.

    In Dan and Dave's case I'd suggest non conventional as an alternative option.
     
  5. Ok my bad although they do have a 'cool' personality
     
  6. They do but how can you quantify "cool" to someone that has never heard of them before? Subjective words like cool takes on different meanings respective to the different individuals point of view.
     
  7. Yes I see your point. Well would it be safe to say that what makes them cool is that they are relaxed guys and therefore their "cool" style is then influenced apon their flourishes and magic?
     
  8. Yeah I'd say you've got the right idea now.
     
  9. Ok then :), well let's see some more descriptions
     
  10. Paul Harris - Comic Entertainer , Astonisher
    Wayne Houchin - Audience Performer, Someone who concentrates on his relationship with his spectator, Sleight of hand artist and magic mentalism
    Daniel Madison -Underground magician, Gambler and cardist
    Banacheck -Psychological manipulator, mentalist

    -Punyesh
     
  11. Jay Sankey- Stand up comic who does magic, or that wierd guy who flirts too much for his own good. I mean that in the best possible way :)

    David Williamson- A down to earth Jim Carrey with super powers.

    Kalin and Jinger- That witty couple that everyone feels comfortable with, everyone wishes they were they're good friends.
     
  12. The whole definition of the word. But keep your eye on the first example.
    "1 the mental and moral qualities distinctive to an individual : running away was not in keeping with her character."

    A character is a stage persona. Much like an actor has its persona(to explain a guy who plays 007 is not really 007). In movies it is vague and very understandable, sometimes this applies to theaters(although much of what you should see is not given to you on a silver plate, that is what makes reading literature with thought hard for some, you have to read between the lines and find the little quirks that the characters have to understand their actions. It is very hard to read Puškins "Jevgeni Onegin" without understanding the basics of his character) but mostly characters are hidden(much like in books). Movies need very vague approach since they don't have the time and platform to work up a plot like in books but in theater the emotion is given in a compact manner but still trying to keep a very thoughtful meaning to it.

    This applies to magic in many ways. One of which is theater. You are an actor when you are on stage since nothing you do is actually real but you must convey the fact that what you are doing at that moment is very real. Chung Ling Soo comes into mind when talking about this. He went so far that he did not speak english for decades and always used friends or interpreters to speak to journalists. He did not speak on stage and if he did he spoke Chinese(don't quote me on the language it might have been something else, i'm not very familiar with the culture). He was always Chung Ling Soo until he got home, to his room and locked the door.(not literally but you get the feeling) Up until his death, if i'm not mistaken 1918, most people didn't know the truth, until attempting his famous Bullet Catch routine and failing. When he got shot(by shrapnel from his gun, terrible accident) he said the first words in English ever in his career as Chung Ling Soo: "Oh my god. Something happened. Lower the curtain.". This idea is taken to one of my favorite movies - The Prestige(every magician should watch it).

    Long post but my point is that to create mystery we have to sacrifice something(much like old tales about the Devil getting your soul and you having eternal riches and a "fulfilling" life but then as they die their soul goes to the devil) and that is our own being. The extent to how far people go is their own choice but Max Maven, who was mentioned very nicely by Draven, said: "A character must not be someone else, my character is me but with some of my qualities heightened. So the person you see on stage and off stage is the same person."

    I hope this gave a little bit of information on why it is important to ask this question. Many effects are created for a type of character but can be reworked to fit others.

    M.
     
  13. What inspired me when making this post was a conversation with Paul Draper about a magic effect I had been working on. He asked me what my character was in one sentence. It took me by surprise but it made me realize that if I can't define my character how can I really be marketable.

    I think that answering this question would help us out as magicians. If we can define others characters in one sentence we can better understand what kind of attributes make them unique. That formula can then be applied to our own characters.
     
  14. What character does is provide answers to the audience's questions "who is this guy, and why is he doing this?"

    If you don't answer this, the audience will. The answer will usually be "he's just some guy looking for our approval" and that's a terrible position from which to perform. You might as well just give them scorecards, because they'll judge you; and harshly at that.

    Think about how the performers named above develop and reveal character - how is it that Jay Sankey comes across as a "stand up comic who does magic"? How does Lance Burton reveal sophistication, elegance and class? Why do Penn and Teller wear what they do - what does it say about them?
     
  15. Absolutley! When we answer these questions we can then look at our own character. If I want to be card shark what kind of things do I need to do and say so that my audience leaves saying "Fred the magician is a really great card shark". If I want to be a rockstar magician what kind of effects do I need to perform and how should I perform them so people say "man that edgy magician would be a great half time show to the battle of the bands".

    Understanding how to tap into those attributes that will make you worth so much more!

    Just to add to the list here...

    Dani Daortiz- Haphazard card wizard, there is no way he has control of the cards yet miracles just happen!
    Lennart Green- He is either a fool with a pack of cards, or the worlds greatest cheat, every effect keeps you wondering.
     

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