What is an entertainer?

Jan 1, 2009
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I often see this word thrown about and used as a blanket statement all the time by the guys on the Magic Cafe. "I am an Entertainer!" Yet, it seems that none of them seem to actually know what the word REALLY means. Hell, I am pretty sure they all think it means to tell corny/lame jokes while wearing a cheesy grin the entire time.

The only person I've seen who has actually taken the effort to define the word and actually put some thought into it, was Eugene Burger (Not surprising.) in Magic and Meaning. He actually takes the time to explain the word and also dig a bit deeper than simply saying "You make people laugh and have a good time." Which is also a very cliched and over used statement.
 
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Justin.Morris

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Are you getting at what it means to be entertained? (does it mean to simply laugh, have fun, think deeply, etc?)
An entertainer is someone who entertains.

Or are you getting more at the question what is good entertainment?
 

RealityOne

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Now, those of you that know me, know that I am strongly influenced by Burger, Neale, Parr, Haas and others who think similarly about magic and meaning. I am also influenced by Tamaritz, Giobbi and others that were influenced by Ascanio.

To be an entertainer means to entertain. So that means the question becomes what is entertaining... To the audience. If you read 's Showmanship for Magicians (with an overlay of Darwin Ortiz's critique in Strong Magic), to be entertaining means that magic needs to be dressed up with orchestra music, scantily clad dancing girls and lots of humor. Unfortunately, many read Fitzke (or worse yet, follow the advice of those who talked to someone who knew someone that read Fitzke) to be literal. Thus, we see illusion shows presented as if they are from the 50's. We see kids show performers who think the entertainment value of their show resides in their gags and the number of laughs per minute they get from acting like a buffoon. Ugh.

I read Fitzke to say that magic needs to be performed in a manner that reflects the contemporary performance values that can be drawn from other performance arts. What ideas can we draw from contemporary comedy, theatre and music? I'll leave that one for you to think about.

So what is entertaining? Some would argue that the impossibility of magic is entertaining enough. I disagree. The impossibility of magic is entertaining, but it is not enough. It does, as Fitzke says, need more. Anyone watching a magician perform trick after trick soon tires. The " performance" quickly becomes a demonstration of "things I can do that you can't figure out." Especially if the presentation is say-do-see patter consisting of what Eugene Burger calls "the adventures of props in the performer's hands."

So what is the "something more" that makes a magician an entertainer? As a start, it is what Larry Haas calls a performance piece. It is the magic trick with added presentational elements. Those elements can be humor (which is different than lame hackneyed jokes), stories, music, scripting and meaning. Those elements provide a context to the magic. Also, there needs to be what Eugene Burger calls "texture." That is, each effect feels different to the audience. the show can't all be serious stories or "visual" tricks or humorous routines.

Learning the trick is the easy part. It is more difficult to make the trick entertaining and even more difficult to make it magical.
 
Dec 18, 2007
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As usual R1, solid post. . .

The unfortunately reality in magic (especially) is that the huge majority think in the line of whatever they select to feature in their show has to be "entertaining" because they like it. . . I can more than assure you that this isn't just wrong thinking, it's ignorance at its best.

FACT ONE: is that no two or us are alike and thus, it stands to reason that what Joe Shmoe does that works great for him probably won't work as well for us in that he has a completely different personality than we do and old Joe understood how important it was to choose effects that fit his unique sense of humor and timing.

FACT TWO: "Borrowing" effects from other acts simply makes us thieves and not entertainer -- see the above.

FACT THREE: (another echo to Fact One) Chris Carey told you decades ago that we must do the stuff that us. . . The Stuff That's You! so why are we still trying to avoid the labor of doing just that?

FACT FOUR: Just because you have the recent flavor of the month trick or a whole year's inventory of such, WILL NOT make you a "Magician". Until you learn how to create genuine enchantment with that item you will only look like another dick trying to be like the TV Heads everyone "raves" about . . . as in everyone in the magic world, the general public rarely knows nor cares who they are.

FACT FIVE: Being an Entertainer -- a True Showman -- can only be learned one way, getting out there with other real world showmen and learning first hand. You can study the books, take acting & voice lessons, and invest time with improvisation groups but until you actually learn to LISTEN with the willingness to be willing to learn and thus, willing to pay the price for the right to learn and develop that character and experienced mind, you can't be entertaining nor a true showman.

Sure there are a handful of "naturals" that come along like Luke Jermay and Josh Jay but I'll lay money on the table that both of them had experienced people that they corresponded with and listened to . . .

I place a lot of emphasis on those old books like Magic & Showmanship, Tarbell, etc. because they still have valuable insights we can learn from and evolve by. But only if and when we are willing to do so.

FACT SIX: Show biz is a far more demanding, challenging creature today; more than it's ever been. The public expects "more" out of us which means we must invest a bit more when it comes to prep-time; education, study, practice & rehearsal. We can't just run out there and do neat stuff and become an overnight success, even when our YouTube channel is getting thousands of hits a day. We've got to deliver more because of the instant realities of social media and how they can make or break you.

In a nut shell, it means getting some legit theater & oratory under your belt as well as some solid business understanding. Much of this can be had during one's high school years but most certainly in college. Take a business major and theater minor; learn about marketing and small business management as well as contract law while you are likewise learning about dance, how to properly walk and move with grace, how to speak properly and employ an intelligent sense of vocabulary, even social skills such as wine tasting, art appreciation, proper communication/conversation. All of these things are vital building blocks whether you continue with show biz or not; it will all benefit you in the long run and more so, it can expedite your ability to move forward.

FACT SEVEN: Magic Tricks aren't "entertainment", some of the most successful acts in magic history presented more gags than effects; while Carl Balentine must lead that list others, like Fred Kapps & Peter Pit must likewise be considered; true comedy was their talent while magic was their vehicle. . . a Vehicle they learned to master by way of focusing, not jumping around from one thing to the other; they focused on single effects as well as single goals, the result was nothing short of enchanting magic that was inspiring and appreciated.

The ONLY trick you must master . . . truly become an adept with . . . is yourself! You must understand who you are, why you want to do this work and where you're taking it or, to be more accurate, where it will take you. If you pause and listen to it, your own gut and what flows naturally for you, then you'll know the direction and you won't find yourself constantly struggling with impulse purchasing; you'll actually learn to ask yourself "How does that fit to my character and my goals?" If there is not proper fit you most move on without trying to justify things and prove the contrary to yourself; not listening to your gut is the quickest way to screw the pooch.

Develop a study and work ethic that cultivate that more important illusion in your collection -- YOU! If you do this and do so in ways that add to your scholastic and practical resume, you WILL with time, become that showman and solid entertainer we hear about. Understand, it's a matter of time, patience and constant practice (focus) but you will get there.

YES, there are those that can't afford the more formal modes of schooling at first. Join a circus or side show group and work the grind. And when I say Side Show, I mean the sort in which you're doing 18+ performances a day over a 12+ hour days. You'll find similar schedules in theme parks if you're more interested in convention magic situations but know that the competition is stiff and now days, you more or less have to qualify for a chief production company rather than the park, and even they want to see a couple of years of actual work under your belt.

Very few "showmen" are born though the heart might cry for the lime light. We are molded and it is a perpetual process in which we are willing participants.
 

Bizzaro

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When I have told other "magicians" I would rather entertain than fool people. They often reply "What's the point then"? I just walk away from these people shaking my head. The point is for them to have a good time. You can't fool everyone, but you should try for as many as you can obviously as that is the nature of what we do.

The problem is some people think just because they get a chuckle or applause they think they are entertaining people.
 

Mike.Hankins

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FACT FIVE: Being an Entertainer -- a True Showman -- can only be learned one way, getting out there with other real world showmen and learning first hand. You can study the books, take acting & voice lessons, and invest time with improvisation groups but until you actually learn to LISTEN with the willingness to be willing to learn and thus, willing to pay the price for the right to learn and develop that character and experienced mind, you can't be entertaining nor a true showman.

Some people no matter how hard they study or who they learn from, will NEVER be a good performer.
 
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Some people no matter how hard they study or who they learn from, will NEVER be a good performer.

To some degree you may be right, at the same time they will become better performers and if they learn by way of observation they will realize that all the greats, all the guys & gals that really shine in the spot light LISTEN to other persons who have knowledge and experience in other areas of "theater" -- they understand the value of getting a variety of perspectives and more so, critical and honest critique. The caveat however, is putting said direction into action.

I have a few notable friends that meet the image you're speaking of and to this day they rely on "outside eyes" to bring the best out in them because they know they suck otherwise.

There's that other reality too, I was reminded of this last night while watching AGT -- a ten year old kid that was able to wrap an audience around his finger because he is a natural born SHOWMAN. Such people are few and far between but we feel their presence when they are exceptionally young and miss it when they are no long there (granted, some of these prodigies should have stopped performing 20 years ago . . . like Wayne Newton . . . because they become a parody of themselves . . . then again, that's why we have Branson, MO.)
 
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