nice idea i really like it...only thing i don't like is that you must turn over the card to accomplish the control.That means that the magician must see the selection.I personally think that the trick is more powerful if the spectator thinks that you don't know the selected card.
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hey here is a little excerpt.. from a someone who make a very good point..
"My first foray into Theory 11. I was interested in this because of the reference to the Larreverse. Very nice move!
Some of the people commenting on it however leave a little something to be desired. Some were whining that it looked fishy, etc.
A friend of mine who is a non-magician but QUITE sharp watched the demo three times and could not suss out the move. So, to the whiners on Theory 11 that complained about this move being fishy, perhaps your study of magic itself is faulty. This little move is quite deceptive and lends itself to MANY more applications than are presented in the video. But, why spoil the fun? It even works EXTREMELY well as a closed control. Nice job!"
...show a vid wise ol' eddie let see who's a good performer of magic tricks between the two of us ...you talk to much of nonsense fool ...can't take contructive critism
...you know eddie it's not about what the magician know or got the move, watch it again and you'll know my point. the convincer of the trick makes the move pretty obvious, there is a big descrepancy on the move in turn the card face down that the laymen can easily detect,and eddie laymen today are very skeptic because you could watch revelations of magic on youtube,reality man.
Again, it is very clear you talk out of no experience what so ever. I'm not going to bother and waste my time explaining to someone who will not understand. Just keep on the art for about a few years then you will realize your ignorant statements.
...i personally don't discourage the creator are you blind eddie? read my posts first and try understanding it. my post are all constructive. so shallow. we are all entitled to our own opinion. if you love the then that's your right, i don't like then let it be. the move is pretty obvious on the performance even a laymen can see. i am not a professional magician and not super good,but for me to see the obviousness of the move,i will not be very confident on using this kinda move.
Instead of re-editing my post, I would just like to add that I would like to apologize for my attackings. I just find it extremely irritating that all I see are people insulting or putting down a sleight someone has come up with and is willing to share. Just because it doesn't suit your tastes doesn't mean it isn't right for anyone. You're not only discouraging the creator of the sleight, but also potential learners who wish to learn the move.
You don't have to purchase the effect if you don't like it, no one is forcing you to buy it. However, there are others who are willing to spend a few bucks on it if they find it interesting and is willing to learn.
I would also like to state that figuring out a trick is totally different from actually purchasing an effect. Buying the effect will not only get you the method, but it also gives additional tips and how you should be able to do the move in different situations. I think that is a lot more valuable than just the method alone.
sorry for the wall of text
"forcing myself to a move that's pretty obvious"
Right. Cause just because you know how it's done means laymen does too. You probably think that palmings, Hops, and passes will not work in real life situations. You should educate yourself thoroughly in the art and do some performances of your own. You would be surprised.
Also, adapting other moves into your own style is part of the fun in card magic. I'm sure you love being in the bandwagon and only do cascade and cherry controls and expect to be set for your entire life.
Hey, I saw Emran post this move on the Cafe a couple of months ago. The move looked really great in that video. I think the "rushed" action during this performance kind of killed the move, but hey, it just shows that this move can look good.
Hum I think this control is good.
Obviously if you are magician you know how it's done, It's like the bluff pass or other controles.
I dont think lay people can notice it.
If you think the moove is too fast you just have to adapt your style to it, when you spread the cards for instance
...got it already by watching the video,the only problem is the convincer of the move,it's to fast like your obviously hidding something,i don't feel the stealon the move ...anyweyz thanks a lot for sharing!!!
Jerry Andrus thinks otherwise. Once again, they'll be burning your hands like mad because your putting it in the middle via a series of flips and such. Now I'm not saying that you shouldn't have misdirection, but it would be silly to use it in control because it would only cause suspicion in the minds of the audience. "Now why did he have me look at him when he was putting the card in the deck" HMMMMMMMMM
They will be burning your hands if you let them burn your hands. Knowing how to misdirect at the right time can make all the difference. This is a great card control, and I bet if Mr. Riaz were to perform for you in person, he could blow this move right by you. Remember, he was performing the effect for the camera, not a person. If you constantly have your spectators looking at your hands, then you are doing something wrong.
JB, what do you mean, "not to be done under too much heat"? A spectators card is being chosen, of course there going to look at your hands. and even if they looked while you flipped it over, they wouldn''t stop looking and say themselves "o, I can trust that he'll REALLY put it in the center for me" They'll be burning his hands non-stop from start until finish. How could you ever possibly expect to get away with this without a ridiculous amount of heat.
Much like many other moves in magic, this is a discrepancy move - it is not meant to be done under too much heat. Nevertheless, this was shown to Michael Weber, Chris Kenner, and Jason England in the past week and praised for being simple, deceptive, and effective if used properly.
I like it. For additional study of moves like it, check out the credit listed - Larreverse by Larry Jennings in 1963.
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