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Silver Dream
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When I first picked this up, I felt the same way. This looked HARD. And Justin says just that, that this is a hard routine, but he will take you through every step.
After I got it down, it is one of my favorite coin routines. No gimmicks, and it looks really good.
Just take each phase one at a time. You'll get it.
I don't like the limitations in this routine...
And it is it's biggest flaw....
I understand what you mean....there's always the gimmicked version, but it is nowhere as strong.
I don't like the limitations in this routine...
And it is it's biggest flaw....
Limitations? As in, sleeving? If so, sleeving is not a limitation, it is a method. It could be said a gaff deck effect has limitations by being gaffed. Its just a means to an end, and an amazing one at that.
If you weren't talking about sleeving... well... I suppose I was wordy for no reason
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Thanks man.
Folks, I saw Justin do this in person and I was at the worst possible angle (eye level with his left sleeve) and it STILL freaking looked like magic... Beautiful routine.
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I agree with C=B. It's definitely worth buying. If you don't use every sleight Justin teaches (very well, by the way), then you can always substitute your own sleight for one of the vanishes. Personally, I don't use the second one, so I'll switch it out for something else. But again, it's a great routine and looks awesome. Very easy to make it your own style.
You should get Homer's Coin 2 as well. I believe Justin's routine was based on his. From what I hear Coin 2 is a little bit more in depth. Not to say anything bad about Silver Dream though it was a good video and he teaches well and adds some nice subtitles on the retention vanish which I used to help develop my coin work. Both of these videos will help you to develop your own version of the 3 coin routine.
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My routine was not based on what homer provides on C2 I was inspired buy a vanish I saw homer do about 15 yrs ago. The other vanishes were inspired by Troy hoosier chris Korn, some gary kurtz and carl cloutier.
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bad idea, they are weighted differently so it could throw the technique off. Practice on ur bed.
It's Troy Hooser. No i. Everyone seems to mispell his name. It's slightly annoying and I'm not even the guy.
In any case, Justin's routine is effing good. Personally, I think its greatest highlight is the second vanish. To not only see-- but also hear-- a coin disappear into nothingness is a beautiful moment.
Justin teaches sleeving extremely well. He offers very vivid and precise instruction throughout the entire DVD. It's an awesome supplement to have for Bobo's Modern Coin Magic. I think Silver Dream is an elegant routine when performed well, so it really deserves a lot of patience and respect to ensure it isn't maltreated. I've seen a lot of people do the same series of moves horribly, because they just wanted to get out there and show it off to family and friends. It doesn't do the routine justice.
Although Justin's routine is stunning for impromptu circumstances, I wouldn't mind using a little more preparation to end it with a vanish off the spectator's palm. I'm actually trying to rework it a bit so I can give the spectator a coin in the beginning to see and feel that it's a legitimate, normal coin throughout the routine. I think this may strengthen the impossibility of watching the other two coins disappear. I would vanish the other two coins using the last two vanishes from Justin's routine, and then use the Raven or some holdout device (Black Widow?) to make the last vanish more personal. I figure if you're going to use sleeves to your advantage, you might as well take the opportunity to hide a useful, versatile gimmick under the jacket as well to make a routine that much stronger. I know such thinking isn't for everyone, but I think it's well-supported in this particular case. It adds a new dimmension to the routine and frames it nicely. They hear and see the first two coins disappear and then finally feel the last one vanish from their own hand.
Debating whether it warrants using four coins or if I should just stick to using three for a succinct routine. I'd love to hear Justin's thoughts on the idea. Anyone else care to chime in?
RS.
In any case, Justin's routine is effing good. Personally, I think its greatest highlight is the second vanish. To not only see-- but also hear-- a coin disappear into nothingness is a beautiful moment.
Justin teaches sleeving extremely well. He offers very vivid and precise instruction throughout the entire DVD. It's an awesome supplement to have for Bobo's Modern Coin Magic. I think Silver Dream is an elegant routine when performed well, so it really deserves a lot of patience and respect to ensure it isn't maltreated. I've seen a lot of people do the same series of moves horribly, because they just wanted to get out there and show it off to family and friends. It doesn't do the routine justice.
Although Justin's routine is stunning for impromptu circumstances, I wouldn't mind using a little more preparation to end it with a vanish off the spectator's palm. I'm actually trying to rework it a bit so I can give the spectator a coin in the beginning to see and feel that it's a legitimate, normal coin throughout the routine. I think this may strengthen the impossibility of watching the other two coins disappear. I would vanish the other two coins using the last two vanishes from Justin's routine, and then use the Raven or some holdout device (Black Widow?) to make the last vanish more personal. I figure if you're going to use sleeves to your advantage, you might as well take the opportunity to hide a useful, versatile gimmick under the jacket as well to make a routine that much stronger. I know such thinking isn't for everyone, but I think it's well-supported in this particular case. It adds a new dimmension to the routine and frames it nicely. They hear and see the first two coins disappear and then finally feel the last one vanish from their own hand.
Debating whether it warrants using four coins or if I should just stick to using three for a succinct routine. I'd love to hear Justin's thoughts on the idea. Anyone else care to chime in?
RS.
first let me say i like the idea, and your idea of taking full advantage of wardrobe requirements is a good idea. its making something an opportunity not a limitation. i think it would be better sticking with the three coins but keep working with it. id love to see a video on it. on another note though, you have like exploded on these forums, im seeing your posts everywhere and they all see very well informed and helpful, just wanted to give you some "props" but on that note, reading your font makes my eyes bleed. haha
