Any ideas on this majestic word?
It's a marketing buzz word. Nothing more, nothing less.
It used to mean an artist out of the mainstream. Usually magicians were given the term if they were very good, but kept a very low profile. Now people just throw the phrase around to make somebody sound mysterious and skillful.
I mean, Daniel Madison was described as an "underground artist" recently. Come on, everybody knows who he is. We've kind of killed the word now.
David
Underground for me is something that the performer's dont want that the complete publick knows about, maybe hand selected eople.. Like underground tutorials on cardistry, or clipshift, many people knew it, but it was underground, tnr by mathieu bich was underground, some people knew about it, but it didnt get to the surface, until t11 released it..
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you beat me to it
Underground for me is something that the performer's dont want that the complete publick knows about, maybe hand selected eople.. Like underground tutorials on cardistry, or clipshift, many people knew it, but it was underground, tnr by mathieu bich was underground, some people knew about it, but it didnt get to the surface, until t11 released it..
Hope you get my point
I would say "underground" is a term that has been used so much it's lost its meaning. No disrespect or offence intended, but I can't see how Theory 11 could seriously be described as "underground". The artists are extremely well known within magic, and their work has even impacted on the general public (via associations with David Copperfield and David Blaine for example), also the products are generally marketed rather than restricted to a limited number of people. I would say that "underground" would more sensibly be applied to someone like Joey Burton or Bebel, or, in his day, John Ramsay. People who have built up their reputation through word of mouth and personal contact rather than publishing their work. I would also describe limited run texts like Bruce Cervon's "Castle Notebooks" and Jeff Busby's "Braue on False Deals", as underground.