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If you wanna to do the hands free version, then this is the trick for you :D

Hi! I wanted to contribute something to the forums, so .. here I am! reviewing this new effect from the mind of adam grace. FROZEN "The original VIdeo clip Adam Grace prepared on his own web site three years ago drew thousands of emails from magicians. Grace laid a simple quarter on a...

also, If you want to know moves that not a lot of magicians know, I recommend aaron fisher paper engine, it has like 8 very useful sleights and 11 tricks and routines that are nice and very visual....not mentioning the amasing(and usefull) The gravity half pass, here is a demo... Gravity half...

there ar eother dvds that talk more in depht with passes but Id ont remember one right now.

well, returning a little with ellusionist(hahah) you could learn the pass and other ones form ninja one... I learned the classic pass from there.

well, there are a lot of sources to learn some nice DL I learned the push off DL from CRASH COURSE 2 from ellusionist, he goes into a big detail of that DL, there are also some things in there that you can use, considering that you do not hve a lot of time doing magic... have a nice day!

touche, hahaha, well I do not speak english so maybe the word "admirable" was the wrong thing to say, what I wanted to mean is that I respect what he is doing and I hope that he is doing it for the right reasons, If somehow I discovered that he is doing it just for publicity, well I would not...

BTW I had the opportunity of reading some of derren brown's work, and I must say that is a very nice piece of information that you can add to your perfomance work... He even quoted darwin ortiz on this, and I agree with him in every word... "while every trick tells a story, it's important...

Well, we are not D+M so we cannot know for sure... in fact, do you remember the thing he does with the knife? he has said that he has a big scar from that, but he keeps doing it because he feels that doing that is a great way to concentrate and calm the mind.... whatever, publicity or not...

jaja weird uh? Im also known by my mentalism tricks....jaja:D

well, if the guy is that bad, He must know only one double lift and one control.... there are a lot of DL that you can learn and use, for example, the push off DL is a great one, it looks nice, and it looks natural, there are also a lot of card controls, for example a nice and good pass, so try...

Patter? I dont want to give you any bad advice on this, so I suggest that you send MORGICIAN a pm about this, it should help your magic a lot.

Talking a little bit about the white or wheat effect, I just cant get the production right, jajaja. But yeah, Im practicing the ego slip just now, I hope I can get it right...

well, I usually try to get to know them a little before doing a card trick, for example ask the name of the people you are about to perform and then sahke hands with each one of them, Is like being a salesman, you need to gain their confidence and interest in order to sell your product...

I use a movement that is similar to that of the bucks,( I learned it from brian Tudor) I use it a lot because it feels so natural, anyway,who originated this move?( I dont know if this is exposure, but in this version you swithc the card for the one at the right)

hey what's up? Hey I love controls that involve natural motions just like .... Cherry control, the ego slip and the spread pass... I have some questions on the last two... 1.- How good are the angles on the spread pass? Because in DnD site, the camera is above chad nelson hands, so I am...

very true.....:D

wooouw, thank you very much sir! the guys at ellusionist couldt tell me this..."just change it in the menu..." wouw thanks (what menu?) that explains it all, thanks friend.:D

well, the dvd case says that it only contains 2 versions, the french version and the english version....

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