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guys these feel much much better then 1800's it hink the uneven ink was the problem with those....*shutter* i wanted to like those cards real bad but was dissappointed. these are my total favorate. standard stock that i love ( i don;t like the thick "casino" stock) and nice dependable bike finish.

well said john, much better then I

here is a excellent ebook, far better then the dvd on the subject thats out there http://www.google.com/base/a/1577887/D12030218218360441426

guys you can make your own gaffed cards. ill be making many this weekend and a ton this next weekend when i have more cards, you can do nearly anything with a household iron and some dry mount paper. i use todd lassens card gaffing genii, but you can get a contact iron for like 20 bucks...

finally, someone who is starting to get it. its about the effect. if you like the effect, a gimmicked or gaffed version is almost always gonna have more immpossiability and be that much more magicial. im not saying you gotta be gaffed to the hilt (good book) but i think you owe it to your...

do some stand up stuff you can really streach that out. here what i would do in no particular order but you might wanna bing it all together for a routine cups and balls ( vernon or ammar routine is good stand up) misers dream ( you can keep it going a while ) check out chris capehart for...

!!! fantasic idea! will try that ;) im using it with rubinstines sucker copper/silver. my theory is cause the routine is kinda made to look suspicious that when i get to the DD part no answer but pure magic will surrfice

i like the sound of that justin, i perfer less card things when working thread

its prob mention, but i gotta say the grey instead of yellow color is spectacular!! handle just as well as normal bikes

the below average handling seems strange tho cause they handle just like bikes; the industry standard.

very cool, iv not done much of the card stuff in there but i do most of the coin routines, 3D ropes, and into the woods (cigar routine)

bugjack, i totally agree esspecially with your last paragraph

i like stuff with gimmicks personally. if i want impromptu ill look in a book. gimmicks such as the ones found here are not easy to reproduce your self.

the coverage your refering to is not gonna change. use misdirection is patter, and lower the display down and they won't be able to see anything awry. chris, on weekends your picture should be you in the batman suit =D

i think your doing yourself a disservice to do sothing like digital dissolve as a stand-alone trick, it works so well as a copper silver climax, you can built so much more suspense and wonder out of it.

i love it for the cheese factor alone!

did you get any guardians steve? im gonna be making some gaffed ones this weekend if you need some

lol, i did.... but the funds vanished!

iv seen much of what he has on dvd. im trying to raise fund to get to the seminar but transpertation from cincinnati is my problem back on topic... iv not tried much of it yet but yes its difficult i hope to one day time permitting

they are one way look at the pistons =)