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I think we have a decent understanding of each others point of view and how it applies. This bit here though has a slight odd rub for me. Just comparing and contrasting... A strong belief in personal responsibility for victims...but not for performers?:) I kid a bit, I think we give different...

Sure, I tried to be vague so people could fill in their own blanks with their own examples but I did have an implicit leaning. In your example I still have the same answer even with its leanings. When we are talking if something is sufficient concerning the groups we are often using a...

I think you're missing the point here. A person might use a similar structure, say the gun debate, as a way of setting a point of reference for 'measuring purposes'. We can now work backwards and see more where things change to be unethical from a point of view. Your example is "hate speech" is...

Negative there Ghost Rider. I am seeing if "significant" contribution would be sufficed in that instance.

From my limited understanding (it was more my wifes thing) self analysis is more what they should be used for. This assumes though that ones premises they are working off of are sound, like when you go to identify an obstacle for instance your assumptions are correct. If you put in BS you get...

Its what the performer provides and how their performance is framed that matter here. The framing of Brad Pitt playing a fictional character in a fictional story kind of misses the mark because there is no attempt at blurring the lines here for the audience concerning on whats real, possible...

Oh no!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress

I understand your point of view and how the changing of the metaphor changes the meaning. That stance still doesn't address a performers responsibilities though. The changing of the metaphor was to reflect how I stand on the issue. I think we get where each other is coming from better now...

For me rock analogy misses a bit. It would be more of a rock rolling by and a person kicking more rocks along with it. Someone yelling out to look out for the rocks would be taking action to combat the rocks eventual outcome without contributing to the rocks falling. This may not change anyones...

Its pretty common for people to not change sides one they are dug in, especially after a certain age and so on. In discussing people changing sides I would be concerned more where there are actual fence sitters who would probably be mostly children here. The other area I was thinking about...

I would hope people watching Maddow or Carlson would watch them for entertainment not news but people use entertainment and news interchangeably at alarming rates it seems. People attending magic shows may have a similar problem. Sure, we both agree people on either side are very unlikely to...

Just wanted to emphasize this. When I was starting (I am still new!) I ran into an issue where I would be showing a trick designed for 1 or 2 people then all of a sudden I would have 5 people surrounding me and my mind would go blank on a trick I could follow up with for that many people. There...

I get that from you sure, it certainly is a portion of any viewership. I am coming from the idea that media can influence how strongly we hold these beliefs though. This is on much more stable ground psychologically where we have examples of media influencing and reinforcing peoples beliefs...

I haven't seen magicians overtly cross the line but at a street fair last year we had psychics set up some tents. This fits in the con from my point of view. Specifically I overheard one of them telling a person who asked them to contact dead relatives that they don't do that because of (vague...

Sure the study is far from conclusive and all studies are a cross section of time and place, there isn't really a large body of work that specifically targets magic here. My original wording using "concluded" was too strong, suggests is better fitting. There is a larger body of work concerning...

Just a thought....I am going to have to re-watch his special if its still on Netflix. I want to hear his opening statement again. I remember a part in there where he says something to the effect of "magic is a lie we all agree on" or something like that. I am thinking about what would...

Yes I agree it shouldn't be an issue because it is in the context of the show and there is usually a disclaimer but the outcome of this study suggests people are still swayed by such performances regardless of what should be. Not really surprising since people often take information from...

I will say this area certainly could be more study on how magic explicitly effects people on this subject before any concrete conclusions concerning broader groups of disparate people are to be made. But the idea itself isn't anything new, there are studies that discuss belief in pseudo sciences...

A recent study concluded that audience members who have seen magic that uses a pseudo scientific explanations were more likely to believe or give weight to pseudo sciences claims (specifically in psychology) after the show. The study used Darren Brown as an example because in his show he says...

With this year coming to a close many people find this is a natural time for reflection. In looking back it is important to look at our failures as well as our achievements. After all we must learn from both lest we miss an opportunity for improvement and I had plenty of opportunities to learn...