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Thats why im saying it was really one sided.The rules should have been either both live or both solo.

Magicfreak667-Philal automatically is one up because of it being a real performance.Its a kinda mismatch.So next time either both perform live or solo.Or get a friend to be the spectator in the video at the very least. Halfway through the effect I didnt know what the heck was going on. It was...

You take the "show me,dont tell me" quote literally. It was a general thing. You guys can yap all you want about how artistic flourishing but outside these forums no one knows and nobody will care. You have to show people its an art. You think a art history teacher tells students about art...

If no one has retorted to your question then its evident that they dont know anything about it. They just yap alot. Personally,I dont care if they did or not.

Each freaking website has its own use. There is no better. You buy what you have to buy and thats it.Theory11 cant sell me loops. Ellusionist cant sell me 1-on-1's.And penguin has an overload of stuff that I could possibly use for any effect I desire. EVERY website has something that I would...

Show me its an art form.Dont tell me.

Its still going on..people saying its art. And once again,I say show me dont tell me. The only people who even talk about it as an art are flourishers themselves. Artforms have to be acknowledged by other people besides the ones that do it. (Read my firsts post here)

What do we think? The responses are always the same to this kind of thing,do you really need to ask?

Magic is art because magic is theatre. But it seems these new street magic kids took all the drama out and left an uninteresting mess of 'cool' tricks.

Im pretty sure if some XCM people rubbed two brain cells together they could add actual drama to a flourishing sequence. But apparently all the can do is sit in front of a camera and be mute.

You say its not just showing off,but you cant tell people that at the same time your flourishing cant you? It doesnt matter what you say,but what we see. And all we see is masterbatory card manipulation.Never in the last 5 years have I seen ANYONE flourish in an artistic way or for people...

evidently you lost that card performing the other night.

Showing off is all it seems to be for the major part of it. Youtube videos for other people to see and to fill with comments of "thats awesomez" by other flourishers. Even if it was a done for spectators,it is still a display of skill. I have yet to see anyone make it truly entertaining. Ive...

Welcome to the club. Relish it,but dont let it get to your head. You dont HAVE to do anything. Leave them wanting more.

This is what I love about the human mind and magic. Spectators always misremember an effect or string of effects and turn it into something even more impossible than the reality of what actually happened. Even after 5 minutes of just seeing the trick! Take my effect LIFE. I had a small plant...

Woah,woah. He has a heckuva to improve on from this performance we saw. Standing on his own means having a good solid performance style and script. I was alot nicer than usual in my first post here but there was nothing interesting or unique about his performance. It was the same...

Dude,I have no idea what they're even talking about anymore in this thread..

Wasnt that a short skit though? I saw that video on youtube and it was written by tudor. Even so,it was horribly performed

They have performed on Live t.v. in america and different country. Very laid back but not uninteresting.

Never apologize to magicians for a performance. Just learn from them and thats it.Even if you do performer better you should always take advice of this nature when given