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what?!! another pointless thread talking about E?! is this theory 11's answer to the ellusionist n00bs? well if it is... we sure will get a lot more threads like these.

they're probably having a hard time because they're trying to find an answer that doesn't implicate them some how. the answers out there, right now, expose theory 11 as a cloning site that takes old tricks and wraps them up in shiny new packaging and hype.

Probably the best reason I can think of , is that many flourishers would NOT like to see their videos posted on theory 11.

is there going to be a thread like this every week!? it is totally redundant any number of the others "what are the best cards for flourishing", they are ALL under 10 bucks a pack! except maybe for the Jerry Nuggets and what have you, but those arent really that great for all around...

Dude, it is hella long, there are TONS of sleights taught. well yea even if you're a n00b get the DVD if you can afford it, its worth it just to WATCH to routines much less learn them.

Id also be interested in seeing this in a video, I've heard it referred to several times but never AFAIK in a member video.

Lock this thread plz!!!! :D

sounds like a personal problem. i'm for one excited to see how the new finishes work out. I am pretty open in my beliefs of the negative aspects of t11 but I do like the fact that they're putting resources into making these cards. the last guardians are on REALLY good stock and they are...

I think it's smarter, to work harder.

i don't understand the second part of your question jeff. why would you not flourish. you posted this in the flourishing section.

WHat is tallyhoe fan circle bak and WHERE can I buiy? i like both better. great thread.

also, the bag blocking the view made it really hard to see whatever you were doing with the cards. all you could really see was the hot chick. so I give it a 5/5!!!! :D just kidding it's actually really cool to see someone performing magic "under fire" in a live situation. terrible...

its called a thumbtip. oh yeah and "coin" is spelled "coin".

shadow...... ... masters.

you could also accomplish this (with the coin, no gaff) using the tabled tenkai-palm change. i learned it on magic makers "hot shot color changes" which is quite a bit better value for the money.

interesting, since you took your username "magicisdead" from Daniel Madison's website...

dunno if anyones got them yet, I just ordered mine as soon as I could and they only shipped yesterday. but they should be about the same look, just less of a "nutty professor" quality to them. And yes I mean THE KLUMPS.

whoa jordan's only 15 too? also copperfield how do you know how good vinnie is... Ive never seen a video of him and I want to :eek:

I didn't think it was that long, or a rant ;) Remember it's just all about where you draw the line UEZ. For the people that have the persistence and dedication, learning fans in both hands is NOT a waste of time (ask the Flourishman if he feels it was a waste of time... he'll smack you with a...