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so you'd prefer to give up the stronger reactions you could have gotten? same with bass. you'd give up the clean sound you get from picking because you're trying to be "pure"? learn picking and fingerstyle, and that's way more versatile and dynamic than just finger style. same with magic...

like the guy above me said, this is only a problem if you're performing to the same group you've already performed for. most people/customers/randoms you perform for have probably never seen a magician close up before, or if they have, it was awhile ago, and will probably never see one again...

because people have strange ideas in their mind, and because the breaks they hold are large enough to drive trucks through. seriously, the only way you get caught out on you double undercut is if your break is as big as your pinky.

so, OP, you'd be willing to shut the door on gimmicks and all the incredible effects you could produce, purely because you couldn't redo the trick if someone asked you to again? doesn't really seem logical. seriously, if that's your only reason, please reconsider. if you don't want to use...

i second that.

neither did mine. i don't really care though.

obviously, you've never seen it performed well. if it's done as it's supposed to be, the audience should have no idea.

so do we need a performance to back up the point?

for any back to back change, (shapeshifter, duck change, shake change, etc.) the easiest way to clean up is as soon as you do the change, pull that single card off and hand it straight to the spectator, and just charlier cut the deck. works every time, they never see the cut, all their focus is...

ok, i sent you the challenge.

umm, i fail to see the relevance of your post to the original question of this thread.

hey, did you wanna have a sandwich battle?

yeah, in the same context that a double lift could be, but I don't consider the double lift a colour change. It can be, but it's not.

you don't think it's important?

lol, I get it, but that was a bad example. the cardini change is a color change, the top change isn't.

I'm trying to figure out the difference between a hindu cut and an electic cut/auto-cut.

if anyone else wants to do a sandwich battle, pm me.

can you give a better example? the top change is completely different to a duck change.

define "visual". but yes, i'm in, send me the challenge.

hi ray! glad to see you here. not to sound like a whiny kid, but I quoted zeanator3581 in my post, and that's why it appeared. i didn't actually read that part of his post, i was just responding to him about his crediting, ironically enough. but thank you for the correction anyway. i love...