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Have you seen every trick on The Trilogy? If not, how do you know The Queens is the best? I would prefer it stay in the DVD. I don't have The Trilogy, but I'd like to own it someday, and I'd rather they not cheapen this great effect so that everybody with $5 can buy it. But I agree... great...

Riiight. ;)

I know what you're saying, and yes, it probably looks a bit cleaner without the Waterfall, but I don't think the Waterfall that he did looks like a move, even as a magician. I just think it adds a nice touch to everything. But you are correct, a simple snap would look cleaner and/or better.

Yes, that was one downfall of the Guardians... they are a tad more difficult to Faro out of the box than other cards. But if you wear them down eventually, you'll be able to Faro them just like a standard deck of Bikes.

I have heard a story of how a very expensive dress up shirt was completely ruined by the UltraSmoke 2000. Also, the chemicals in it can be harmful both to you and your spectators... think about that.

Like I said, your username accurately describes you. Let me put into some analogies for you- if you did a Double Lift, magicians would notice it right away. However, your audience will not if you do it correctly. To magicians, yes, it looks like a move. To laymen, it doesn't. That's just...

I think he means to run away from the art, because once it gets ahold of you, it won't let go. Just something along those lines. Or just start out running and go from there. I don't know for sure, but I would say my first prediction would be accurate.

I should be a Mod. lol, just kidding. Well, not really. :D

Of course. It wouldn't be nearly as good if they couldn't.

It's about time! Congrats, Joel... you're officially part of the "team"! I wish I was part of the team... :(. lol

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that if he was to perform this for real people, they would not think of it as a move. That's how magic is supposed to be performed- not in front of a camera, but for REAL people. Jeez, your username perfectly describes you.

You can have them "glossy" printed when you buy them, which is like laminating.

^^Well I'm glad I didn't watch it. :D

When did I say you were laymen? I didn't. I said that this is going to be performed for laymen, and most won't even think about it being a move, so in all actuality, he has nothing to worry about. We're here to entertain laymen, not fool other magicians.

Are you laughing at the Killer Spies! :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQtfZ4lW8XU Bask in its glory...

If you can find it, why do you need help? :p I'm pretty sure they stopped this, though, as when we took it... it was a long a time ago. lol

The Waterfall does not look like a move to laymen... only to magicians. Guys, magic is performed mainly for laymen, not for magicians! Stop thinking like magicians!

Of course it could. Just casually put your hands in your pocket, talk for a minute, and take them back out, saying something like, "Now, back to the trick," and continue.

I'm assuming he meant "Tannen's Magic Camp". :rolleyes: As to the video- it looked awesome, and I'd love to purchase it sometime. Good job!