I did a forum on this and it was weekly magician vs magician, which didn't really go that far. Anyway, you can not compare them! Yes, they are both close up magicians! But Shin Lim's stuff can be very heavily gimmicked whereas all of Patrick Kun's stuff is impromptu and sleight of hand based! Gimmicks and sleight of hand are two different worlds man, these two can not be compared.