Bud, if you have a problem with liars, a magicians forum is no place for you to be. The intent of the sentence was not sarcastic, it was literal. I don't consider a performance to be in front of a camera, when I said I perform mine standing I meant that I for real people actually perform this magic effect in a cocktail situation.
That is what I mean, you should of specified what you meant. When you said that you perform standing, you were quoting this response made by me. "I only hate it because it marked the demise and arise of youtube, chair, crotch magicians. At least for me."
The fact that you left out the information that you weren't talking about Youtube magicians, crotch shot magicians, etc is deceitful and indeed a trap.
Nowhere in your original post of "I hate Tivo and all it's incarnations." did you specify YouTube magicians, and when I went to clarify that I performed, you assumed differently. There was no trap or dishonesty played here.
I've already addressed this, look above.
Does this effect look a little sleight of handish? Sure it can, but when used properly the effect can be a pillar made of sand for the spectator to lean against. The reason I perform this effect is psychological, this effect is the most sleight of hand seeming effect I do, so I set it up first, if they don't think it is no harm no foul. If they think I must have done something in that instant, then let them believe that, because as my routines get more and more hands off, the pillar of reason they established after seeing the first effect crumbles until there is nothing left.
I'd like to know how you or other people who preach that something they do in their magic routine is in fact psychology. Everyone seems to be a self proclaimed expert about it. IMO if you use an opener that looks flashy and sleight-y, no matter how much more magical the effects that are done after that, there will always be a hint of doubt that what is being done is actual magic. Because the spectators know that you are doing sleight of hand.
If you don't know already, spectators assume you're always using sleight of hand by the way from the moment you pull cards out of your pocket. The sooner you realize this the easier it is to misdirect and manipulate their attention and recognize off beats.
You have a very high horse kind of speaking and it is rather annoying, especially since you just tried to catch me off guard and attempted to school me with words. Then on top of that accuse me of making erroneous remarks. I don't know you and you don't know me, so I'd appreciate it if you'd not talk to me like I am a ****ing eighth grader.
Anyway, when you assume things you make an Ass out of yourself and the spectators. You can't assume that all spectators think it is sleight of hand, you can't really read minds. Over my years of performing magic semi-pro and as a hobbiest, I've encountered many spectators who feel I should go talk with a priest or "come to Jesus". Do you think what they thought I was doing was sleight of hand? Well honestly maybe they did at first. However, I only did one effect with them and I didn't pull out cards, cause card tricks are the worst possible thing to do when you try and get someone's attention. Everyone has that one uncle/friend/family member that does Card tricks like 21 card trick or something fun and silly. Because of this I feel that cards automatically have that "Trickery- sleight of hand" smell to them. The trick is, to dispel the fact you use trickery right out of the gate with something impossible looking.
The idea of making two things impossibly switch places, with one changing right in front of their eyes sounds like a great effect to me, and I have yet to have a spectator that disagrees with the idea.
I agree, however if you figure out a method to accomplish the color change in a spectator hands I'd be more inclined to perform it. It being Tivo. Until that time comes effects like Witness, two card monte, that two card transpo will do fine for me. I think I remember a forum member by the name of Jack Webster who performed a two card transpo onstage using two spectators, it killed.
I believe what you're overlooking is the presentation of a magic effect, how you move, when you pause, how you say things all effect the perception of the magic effect. Now always motivate your actions into things that make sense and it becomes a sleight rather than a move. So yes, when performed well Tivo as well as other in the hands transposition effects are very effective. Maybe you just haven't tried them.
There effective, but they aren't magical!! that is the whole freaking point I am trying to push on you. I do not care if your tivo gets reactions or not, it aint magic. I'd like to know what your presentation of the effect Tivo is, INCLUDING the scripting of patter, blocking, subtext of the effect, why the spectator should give two ****s about what you are doing, how you open the effect up to more to more people and /or respond to certain crowds, how do you make this trick flow with the routine? Please enlighten me to how I should be looking at my magic, because from where I am standing I know more about structure, motivation, theory and routining of a trick then you think I do.