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I ALWAYS pirouhette normal cards by habit, so if I could learn to do it as a double(provided I do it well) it wouldn't be that unnatural in my performance.

Green Magic. And to answer your question PjPinsonnault: To a lot of people I think it would be less entertaining if he sharpened it up, because it's quite comedic. It would be more impressive though in my opinion, I like magic to be precise, not in a flourishy way, but in a natural way...

I've found I can spin a double lightly after concaving/convexing it a bit. I just do the classic pirouhette spin only softer.

Thanks everyone for the help. But my problem is fixed thanks to jamal :D. Cheers.

It's still saying 17 and under for me.

The main thing to remember is: If you practice with a full deck, it will be even easier when you subtract cards. If you practice with less, it will be harder when you add cards. The former sounds more practical to me.

I perform, practice etc. with a full deck, both jokers. No ad cards though obviously.

Awesome thanks, didn't realize it was taught on that. And jamal: It isn't actually taught on Past Midnight, just some applications. Thanks though.

Hey guys, I really want to learn the Erdnase Shift, and I have tried learning it from books such as Expert at the Card Table and Totally out of Control. But I am struggling, not because of the difficulty of the sleight but because I'm completely failing in grasping the concept from the...

Lol, that's a good idea. You'd have to tell me how it's done first though, because I have NO IDEA!

Hey, maybe I'm jumping to conclusions. I only caught 10 minutes of it, and the 10 minutes I saw bothered me.

My bad, although I do think the topic of this thread is slightly different. For those who want to watch legally: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00d7j18 Don't watch it to find out how to do tricks that people like DG are selling please.

Hey, I'm not sure if any fellow UKers saw this, but today at 5:30, there was a show called 'Don't Miss A Trick' on BBCTHREE. It starred the cast of The Real Hustle(which includes Paul Wilson, good friend of Lee Ashers). I watched 10 minutes of it before shooting off to work, and it seemed...

Dude, It wasn't people making that high screeched noise, it was a fault somewhere. I did it(supposedly) and I have literally no mic input whatsoever.

How can you guys say Joel Paschall is better than Asher, Kenner and Fisher. Those 3 are by far the best.

OK whats going on now?

Dude even I can do that.

Oh awesome. I didn't realize it was like a homemade thing, it looks great. I thought you like had a job at a magic company or something :p.

Can you elaborate on the WE thing? Just curious to see who's producing it.

What do you mean ripping us off? And wouldn't a vice have the same effect? Not sure, just throwing stuff out there :p.