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I see what you're trying to say, but I think it's wrong. I think that they should try to crack down on piracy, keeping the same amount of focus on stopping people reverse engineering the tricks. You said it was a black or white thing, piracy or reverse-engineering. I think this is where you're...

Yes, but people aren't going to reverse engineer because it's better for them and magic, because it involves more effort, and people in general are lazy. What you're saying is that it's better to give people two ways to find out how the trick is done, in the hope that some people will take the...

I don't think a layperson spectator would spot anything there at all. Heck, I hardly spotted anything, though I think there was just one tiny moment in the second one where you could see half the deck.

Ah, but the choices here are both or one. If someone can figure it out from the trailer, that doesn't make it un-piratable. So it's either piratable AND possible to figure out, or it's just piratable. And from a business perspective, you wouldn't think 'well there are two ways of getting the...

Hey Nexus, congrats. 'Twas a good battle and I lost it to a good performer. But I'll still beat you next time :p

Just out of interest, how can something be a 'much talked about underground control'? Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron? It's like saying 'this is a move that everyone's been waiting for for ages, but nobody's ever heard of it before.'

Woah, that was crazy. In more than one sense :p I have absolutely no idea what just happened. It made me feel young and innocent again. Very nice.

Quoted for truth. Though may I just chime in here with the urban myth that if you don't own this book, the villainous Kenner-creature will hunt you down in the dead of night and make you disappear. As if you needed any more encouragement.

Really sorry about this, but I'm going to die in a second. Perform. Per. PER. Not preform. Perform. Ok? Seriously, this annoys me so much, just because I see so many people doing it. We are PERformers that PERform. Right. *exhales*

I haven't tried this yet, but I thought of using the Card to Spectator's Wallet trick or the Casanova Concept. Both of these involve having the spectator's wallet on the table at the end, which means it is just one thing that they don't have to do before giving you tips. There again, I don't own...

*Ahem* Hehe, just kidding. Thanks for this, some great thoughts here, especially about the 'secret move'. One thing I've noticed quite a lot on youtube videos etc. is that you can always tell when someone is doing a double lift or whatever, due to inconsistencies. Anyway, thanks again.

Ni-ice, I like them. A lot. I've done things like a spring catch before, but it always involves palming. Keep up the good work man.

Aha, so it is.

Isn't this just because you run out of cards in the deck?

Sorry, I've had a bad day and I needed cheering up. You're right, a magic forum isn't the right place for it. I shall try to restrain myself next time.

That's what she said. Sorry, I had to get in before Tumbleweed...:p

And where, pray tell, did you hear this?

Um...isn't it about time someone turned up and told us all to stop discussing online games and get back to the magic? I would do it, but I've just noticed I can move my king into a new pile...:p

I stand corrected :)

Quoted for truth. After that, I think a standard rise would be a bit of an anticlimax. You're thinking of it in terms of sleights, not dramatic build-up. Also why vanish the deck, only to reproduce it? Kind of ruins the impact. Rather than people going away and saying 'he vanished the deck,'...