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secrets are what happens under the spectators noses that they dont know about, whether it be a single slieght, or one of a few that produce a single effect, so yes i agree.

the effect is what happens to the spectator, the effect is the same.

seriously? all that entire routinne is the repeated effect of the coin going to the spectators shoulder, nothing more. What is a coins across routine? the repeated travelling of four coins. Larry jennings has an effect where the aces travel to four different pockets... twice. theres three...

thats why i said exception man.

um i think there are way to many exceptions for ALL of these rules to be followed. I think some of them are well said and delicious, but, lets say, the repetition, effects are actually stronger when you repeat them. Look at slydini's work on the coin on shoulder, it was because of the repetition...

your right. word.

no what i ment to say was the slieghts executed werent done perfrectly, or in some cases, very good at all. my bad for the confusion.

everyone else in the world calls there version tivo 3.0 because two cards transpose, one on top, one in the middle.

why would you want to do the lame effect in the first- wait im out of line. Why dont you go buy a marked deck, that way you dont have to do any work yourself. eh?? now theres a way to instantly gratify yourself.

criss made doug seem like a homosexual to the max.

dont get any other material right now, just work on and study what you have

its alright man, nothing really new. Dont call it tivo 3.0 though. its just bad taste. If you like the improtmu dup idea, check out larry jennings work, he has a great idea using that.

if you really seriously want to handle cards, it DOES infact matter which brand you use. I dont personally dont use bikes because to me they look tacky. You want a professional image, not someone who just does card tricks from time to time, then get tallys. If you let them handle the deck, make...

to be honest, neither of the tricks were orginal or that slieght dependant. Philal made me laugh with the bleep thingy, but all in all, needs a lot more practice. I disliked much the whole "deck reassembled in new deck order" thing though. It was lame. Its much better if its left as " i lost...

I dont see anything wrong with performing magic for money at all, its a good way to make a living. The problem with me is that too many people make it about the money, and not about the art. Do you seee where im coming from? Most people today create to sell, not to entertain. To me a...

No its not, do you pay your television when you see an entertaining show? Your dont perform magic man, you prostitute your entertainment for money. Prostitution is the oldest profession, magicians are the second.

draven, one simple question: Is it about actually entertaining the audience, or the money you get for the entertainment?

cards are worth getting in trouble over, especially if you are talented with those pasteboards you hold in your hands. Like i said, if your talented enough, they can make exceptions, believe me i know.

not when the american educational system is about putting facts inside of peoples heads, diverting them from actual thinking. Do anything that will actually make you think for yourself. If that means perform, then perform

sneak it man, thats what i do. Just sneak it. I also perform for the teahcers so theyre like its cool if you do that stuff sometimes.