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I wasn't referencing you actually. Take a look at all of Derren's videos on YouTube. It won't be long before you see a group of self-proclaimed experts filling everybody in on how NLP made these "miracles" possible. The line of crap these armchair psychologists feed us is downright hilarious...

NLP is garbage. The creators really just took basic linguistic science and psychology and then threw in a bunch of stuff they made up. It's hilarious to me that everyone thinks Derren Brown has NLP superpowers, and he's said himself that he believes it's mostly crap. That said, the works of...

Speaking as an atheist, we're not all like this guy. Most of us are actually intelligent. On the topic though, I found out that the teacher was also rather irresponsible and let his students get away with more than they should have. Still, fired for wizardry? That sounds like an...

I think this safely falls under the category of agressively stupid.

Mac users are the number one reason people don't use Macs. That said, two things re-tabed. First of all, Ellusionist does not carry The System anymore. Second, could we maybe get a period in your posts somewhere?

Perhaps by nature I just read too much into things.

Ah, but Jackson Pollock's abstract expressionist period was a statement that the creation process was the art, and not the finished product. Paintings in the Gothic period typically had religious significance. They were an expression of faith. Cave paintings, as a professor of mine...

Art at it's base either has an underlying message or at the least seeks to evoke an emotional response. Who says flourishers can't evoke emotions? Either way, you're trying to express something. Then don't. I'm not twisting your arm. I call that masturbation. No shame unless you...

I don't believe magic to be different enough to warrant being beholden to an entirely separate set of rules. I've been involved with different arts for as long as I can remember, and I hang out with artistic people. We're really not all that different when you get right down to it. There's...

Brad, I'm neither patting myself on the back no running home crying. I'm just tired and sick of talking myself hoarse when no one is listening. I'm tired of talking to an empty room. You say I'm not making myself clear. Let me tip my hand completely then. What I didn't expect to happen and...

You wrote off an entire community with one stroke. The implication I got was that I and anyone else affiliated with Ellusionist are all the same. I admit it was probably more a Pavlovian response on my part than anything else. I've been put on trial (metaphorically speaking) numerous times...

I'm going to have to side with Rabid on this one Brad. As this conversation has gone on, I come more and more to the conclusion that you're painting an entire community with the same brush. And that includes me and Rabid. I'm losing patience with you continually insulting my intelligence...

You can call me naive if you like, but I want to believe the best in him. And I really think that the tone of the show was more the producer's doing than anyone else. Not when it stymies those who want to learn. Would "oppose" work better for you? As for being afraid of newbies, I...

In the case of Camel cigarettes, that's an interesting situation. After giving it some thought, it wasn't out of any maliciousness, and I can't say I entirely approve, but it's not something I'd get worked up over. Could it be considered exposure? Yes, but I admit to finding tobacco companies...

The solution I propose is to stop clawing at the throats of those we percieve as exposers, and instead focus on overcoming the obstacle. It can be done and it has been done, but each magician needs to find the impetus in themselves to figure out how they personally can overcome the challenges...

I've already said it like eight times throughout the thread.

And you're too quick to judge me as a blind fanboy. How many times do I have to tell you that this isn't just about Ellusionist before you actually listen to me instead of judging me? What exactly do you want me to say?