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I also learnt Cyrils effect on my own... it's so simple yet as you said, it's so effective

Cool... I'll give two examples where what I did got far greater a reaction than I expected... well ok one I didn't expect and the other I knew would be good but not as effective as it was. I have found though that if you really connect with the spectators that the reactions you recieve will...

What is your main worry?? If it's breakage: Before using make sure you stretch them out a bit so that they get worked in a little. Remember that your audience does not know what you are gonna do so if they do break just do something different :D If it's the visibility: They cover this on...

I recieved a PM from Steve Brooks regarding the recent problem with the cafe'... The server crashed and all back-up files were corrupted :( Everything posted after January 2007 has been lost forever... accounts, pm's, topics... everything Just letting those interested know

Yeah but then like you say... it's not really to fool magicians, it's to fool laymen

Don't own it but it's by Lance Norris so if you like the sound of it go for it... it's pretty cheap also. Of course it could be useless but you never know :D

I also have his Magic Redifined notes, Saw and Northbound... Okay the effects in 1337 are: 20 B-Low- A penetration effect of a borrowed bill thru a glass table My thoughts: I can't believe I forgot to mention this in my first post as this is one of the true gems in these notes. Really...

Wait a couple of mins... im gonna get the notes up so I can tell you the proper names and i'll give my opinion on each... back in a sec ;)

Thats a pretty good effect... the handling needs some work but overall I quite like it My advice would be that when your showing the jacks, try and loosen up as it looks awkward at the moment

I can't remember the names of them all but here are the effects- Taste-Ticular- Water to mouthwash effect FU2- Impromptu T&R effect P33K- A new peek Some routine that utilises the peek A coin in bottle effect Exorcised- An effect where you swallow someone's necklace and pull it out your stomach...

My favourite piece by piece T&R that I use is a modified version of FU2

Seamless is good

Yeah FU2 is fantastic and can work with a signed card shown throughout... with a little thought

Yeah I hope it does... I had some PM's and stuff also Come on cafe'!!!!!!!!

Yeah thats the one... cheers for posting it here Looks to be excellent and those in the know believe it to be the last word in T&R effects I am looking forward to seeing the one being released through T11

They spit the mouthwash out into a glass for all to see

It literally HAS gone back in time lol... I even have the PM's I had back then My post count is also down... I hope this gets fixed :(

It's back up!!!!!!! :D:p:D Apart from it's gone back in time... none of the new topics/posts lol... newest one from like january this year

I forgot to mention... Tossed out Deck and Tossed out Booktest

Im very happy with the way this site is heading :D Here and cafe' are my two favoutite places to hang out online