Hey, I am going to review Ellusionist and T11's Produced DVDs/Downloads that they put out. Ok to be completely honest, I like E's DVD right now more then I do towards T11s. I feel like T11's DVDs are short and dont go into detail as much as E does. I recently got Ringtone and Frozen by Adam Grace. And I was soooo happy with the DVDs they had with it. For one the performances on Ringtone went for 25 minutes, allot longer then that of T11 produced DVDs. I will now go into detail in why... E: Since Bullet and Factory Sealed was released, their DVDs started to look and feel allot better. They go into extreme detail, have lots of performances, lots of walk throughs, they tell you what to do and say when doing in on the STREET(Not YouTube), and they also do not having all sorts of funked up editing and crazy camera movements hindering the teaching. You get a real connection with the teacher, it seams like a private training session. They go over everything slowly. They also talk about how to perform the trick on the street, in an intimate conversation with all the right gestures and psychology. In Ringtone, Adam talks about a chat him and Brad had about making the trick work on the street, he then taught everything that Brad said to make is a real reputation maker. Ok enough about E. t11: Ok, Im not trying to 'dis' theory11. They do a great job in creating and producing their DVDs. But I find the teaching is not rushed, nor brief, but they could have gone into allot more detail. Shared more psychology etc. Also the editing sometimes fu*ks me off, and the movement of the camera. I also think they need more performances, so you can go back and look at each and every performance to pick up on subtles and extra gestures across a range on different people. Overall I think they both do a GREAT job at making their DVDs, but for me I perfer E's DVDs. Please post any comments you have, and PLEASE PLEASE dont turn this into an E Vs T11 War. JDEN ps. I am not a E fanboy or a T11 fanboy, I respect both companies equally.