how to find a Joker trick - what do you think?

EricR5

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My only suggestion is that I think the shuffling is not 'natural' enough to give the impression you are truly mixing the cards. Folks who aren't magicians don't shuffle like you do in this. Not sure if you can integrate some overhand shuffles or riffles. If so, I think the impact would be a bit greater.
 
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First, awesome skill, I can only dream about this kind of card handling. I think it looks beautiful.

But this is also the problem (in my humble opinion) with mixing Cardistry and magic, I am not at all surprised in the outcome, my only thought is, “man this guys hands is fast” and that kind of kills the magic. I read in a book (can’t remember which but I think it was a Jean Hugard book) that it’s sometimes better not to show how good you are because then spectator don’t think it’s foul play and think everything is fair and that is where the magic happens. In this presentation I only wait for something like this and don’t get surprised by the outcome.

this is perhaps more opinion than truth and I really don’t want you to think your skill is lacking or anything like that, it’s quite the opposite, and I myself are a real novice. But this is my 2 cents anyhow.
 
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My only suggestion is that I think the shuffling is not 'natural' enough to give the impression you are truly mixing the cards. Folks who aren't magicians don't shuffle like you do in this. Not sure if you can integrate some overhand shuffles or riffles. If so, I think the impact would be a bit greater.

You are right.
I usually began with the overhand shuffle, just skip that part on a video, not to waste time and make it short and direct.
But i think any "regular" shuffle beforehand really improves the demonstration.
 
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First, awesome skill, I can only dream about this kind of card handling. I think it looks beautiful.


Thanks a lot, appreciated. :)


But this is also the problem (in my humble opinion) with mixing Cardistry and magic, I am not at all surprised in the outcome, my only thought is, “man this guys hands is fast” and that kind of kills the magic. I read in a book (can’t remember which but I think it was a Jean Hugard book) that it’s sometimes better not to show how good you are because then spectator don’t think it’s foul play and think everything is fair and that is where the magic happens. In this presentation I only wait for something like this and don’t get surprised by the outcome.



this is perhaps more opinion than truth and I really don’t want you to think your skill is lacking or anything like that, it’s quite the opposite, and I myself are a real novice. But this is my 2 cents anyhow.







Well.. you are right at some point, just with amendment, that there is different styles of.. performance.. let’s call it like that..

Magic is all may be different, for some styles you are 100% right, for some not.


Ricky Jay for example was more like a sleight of hand artist and whatever skills he was demonstrating - it was natural and perfectly in place. I’m a big fan of what he was doing.


For «magic» you are absolutely right, David Williamson gave great examples on his penguin live lecture on how our own attitude may ignite the audience expectation and add more emotions to the final revelation.

Tamariz always looks, like he Is the most amazed person in the entire audience, that the trick works.

Darwin Ortiz have an attitude of «I’m the Guy» «I’m in charge here» «I don’t even have to look, to know this is the right card». And it’s perfectly in place with a Character he created.

Also whenever we are talking about «mechanic» or gambling demonstration, it should look like any card player or casino dealer will shuffle the cards.



What I was doing is more like a pure «sleight of hand» demonstration, that’s why I think, it looks ok in such environment.

It’s also exaggerated demo application of this trick, sometimes I use it to reveal 4 selections and keep the deck in order I would need for other routines.
 
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