# I need a good number force

Discussion in 'Magic Forum' started by Evan Chartrand, Jul 12, 2019.

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I need a force of a number that isn't impractical or use any clunky props(like dice, and ideally not even a deck of cards). I'd like to have one for a larger number anywhere between 1 and 200 and then one for a bit smaller, like between 1 and 10. Does anybody know something that would work?

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Folded pieces of paper each with their own number on it, in a hat or bowl- can be inspected before hand. Finger palmthe number you wish to force and just change out the actual piece they pick with the palmed piece.

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Buy 202 methods of forcing by Theodore Anneman.... Although not all 202 are great I heard that there are some gems in the book.

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Check out Dani Daortiz's work.

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Goodness no! Just sign up at lybrary.com for a free account. In the TLPP The Learned Pig Project Section of Lybrary you can read 202 methods of forcing along with several other good books.

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You could write down different numbers on paper and put them in a force bag

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what situation are you going to be in? stage? close-up? parlor? what is the context of the routines, because different methods would look more natural than others

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The NYSM vibes are so strong on this one!

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An impromptui number-force works like, and feels like, real magic.

I just wanted to say that depending on the effect in question and how you design it, you could force numbers using a deck and then have the spectator +and an entire audience) forget that cards were involved at all. For psychological trickery, get Tricks Of The Mind by Derren Brown.

Other than that, continue your pursuit of a fantastic number force (sans decks, sans dice, sans irritating people who say 'sans').

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I can't find this section. Could you help me?
Thanks

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Definitely Ruler force. Run your hand down an imaginary ruler and tell the spectator to say stop. usually they say stop 3/5s of the way down. you go: thats 35 or 36 right? lets go with 36.

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Try Page 107 of the Encyclopedia of Card Tricks- "DIACHYLON BOOK TEST. FORCING A NUMBER" for your large number. If you don't know what diachylon is, you can (a) read the entire chapter, or (b) substitute the word "magician's wax" in its place.

Scott.