In case you're interested, here's my true opinion, and I'll try to give you some reasoning, too. So, how do people view magic? Broad question - I'll make it a little more contextual. How would people view a routine consisting of a single card color change followed by a full deck change, versus one or the other? In truth, it depends entirely on how they are performed. If you let the spectator view each effect as a magician does, as single effects one after the other, then I believe your conclusion of undermining the first is probably close to reality. However, when you build a routine, you don't have to make this distinct separation. You create a flow of magic that doesn't necessarily have delimited "tricks". Changing the color of a single card could easily bring meaning to the second phase. Maybe a spectator touching a card changes it's color? This is demonstrated with one card, then they run their finger along the rest of the deck and it too changes color. I'd personally say this could strengthen the effect of a colour changing deck. The first phase isn't undermined by the deck changing, but rather it enhances the overall routine by adding meaning.
To be honest having a full deck color change dampens the effect for me as an observer. I mean I just chose a card and it just so happens to be the only one that is red, yay me. Then if the magician does a full deck change into the same back as mine, I feel like, "oh yay I was special for a moment now my card is the same as the others, bummer." But that is just how I view this type of a routine, I love that I can still view effects like a laymen .
The above is another example of how you have extrapolated from my post. You imply that I disagree that a routine has a beginning, a middle and an end.
Dude your extrapolating by assuming he is implying that you disagree with his post. Irony I think so.
In other words he is plugging his ears to your opinion so might as well not give anymore advice to him but someone else.That's you though, isn't it? I know this is a difficult concept to grasp, but we're not talking about you.
You like a variety of different effects, that's great, you're a brilliant all round performer - I get that, now - but my suggestion was in response to what AlfieWhattamMagic asked. From what I gathered, the question seemed to be coming from a beginner, and so I tried to answer in a way that would be helpful to him. Rather than saying "it won't work, try something else", I tried to find something that would work.
An apprentice alchemist once came to me and present a turd and he asked if I could make an elixir of eternal life with it. I told him to discard the turd and go retrieve the petals of a rose that grows on top of a cold rocky mountain, surrounded by thorns and guarded by a dragon. Although it is a dangerous direction, it's the right one to take in order to get what he wanted eternal life.
Huruey did it ever occur to you that maybe your suggested routine just isn't strong enough? I believe Morgician was just trying to help Alfie out by pointing out what was wrong with your suggestion. Furthermore while doing so giving legitimate tips that other advanced (I hate using that word in this context) magicians need in order to routine better.
But whatever I am just an outside observer talking to the air.
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