Jerry's Nuggets Prices Announced

baller08

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I don't mind though, when I get round to selling mine, I'm definately going to take advantage of exactly that kind of stupidity,

That's right...and so long as there are guys like dragon around..you'll always have a sucker.
 

baller08

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If the person buying them thinks they're worth $50, then yes I do.

Then you're the type of person that I was referring to that is stupid enough to buy into the hype; easily to manipulate and blinded by the magic of marketing.

Dragon...I suggest you find another avenue to gain some self worth rather than get them from some plastic cards so the kiddies on youtube can say, "oh wow..you have Jerrys...you must be a serious magician". lol
 
Dec 22, 2007
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And this idea, if someone thinks something is worth something then its intrinsically worth it is exaclty the kind of mark boy mentality that these scams play on. In fact its the basis of every con in existance, what someone perceives something to be worth being the basis of the price.
I don't buy that in this case, since there is nothing to compare prices of Jerry Nuggets to. Surely you think they're worth more than the $1 they used to be sold for purely on the fact that they are discontinued. How much more is decided by the buyers, and all the buyers have to go on is what they are told and previous amounts the decks have been auctioned off for. There's no magazine, no where to check on the amount of decks in circulation, nothing. Since there is no single entity deciding the values (except baller declaring they're only worth 50 cents), the values are whatever the potential buyer decides.
I don't mind though, when I get round to selling mine, I'm definately going to take advantage of exactly that kind of stupidity, but I won't do so believing I'm giving true value for moey.
If someone is truly happy with their purchase, how are they not getting value for their money? Remember, it's your opinion they're being scammed, they might have a completely different outlook.
If trends in card price say anything its that prices of cards only inflate so far before they level based on the number of decks in circulation, a trend that's been in existance with Nuggets for a while, so bottom line is, the world is running out of marks to sell these cards to.
Maybe I'm just misunderstanding, but that made absolutely no sense. The number of decks in circulation and the amount of "marks" there are are completely independent of each other. Jerry Nuggets are the prime example of this! The amount in circulation is way more than the average person thinks yet the amount of marks is still high.
There are a LOT of these decks available and you can get spectacularly rarer decks for less, that will be worth significantly MORE in the future. White cents being a prime example. You can still pick up a deck of them for less than 150, and they only printed 1100 of them, and when Theory 11 has inevitably gone bust, or blown up (it'll do one or the other) they'll become worth even more again..
They won't necessarily be worth more just because they're rare. I could have one deck of cards with a picture of a turd on the back printed and sold on ebay, but it doesn't mean it will go for millions of dollars, even if I trademarked the design so people couldn't just have their own printed. Demand is the primary cause of price fluctuation, not supply.
And Jerry's are ugly as ****, lol, period. Their real value, isn't how they look, or handle, its to the collector as cards that are no longer in production.
Oh gee, thanks for telling me I've been wasting my time :rolleyes:
That's right...and so long as there are guys like dragon around..you'll always have a sucker.
Then you're the type of person that I was referring to that is stupid enough to buy into the hype; easily to manipulate and blinded by the magic of marketing.

Dragon...I suggest you find another avenue to gain some self worth rather than get them from some plastic cards so the kiddies on youtube can say, "oh wow..you have Jerrys...you must be a serious magician". lol
They say you know you have someone up against a wall in a debate when their only response consists of kicking, whining and screaming...
 
Mar 12, 2009
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They say you know you have someone up against a wall in a debate when their only response consists of kicking, whining and screaming...
True.
They obviously have no better arguments, so they have to bash and behave like little kids when they don't get what they want.

LISTEN! The bottom line of the value of the Jerry's Nugget cards are - If you can sell a deck for 175$, they ARE WORTH 175$
So all your talk about "magic of marketing" (obviously you just found something that sounded a little clever and you thought that saying that would make people think you're an old clever business-man) is worthless.
 
Jan 28, 2009
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I don't buy that in this case, since there is nothing to compare prices of Jerry Nuggets to. Surely you think they're worth more than the $1 they used to be sold for purely on the fact that they are discontinued. How much more is decided by the buyers, and all the buyers have to go on is what they are told and previous amounts the decks have been auctioned off for. There's no magazine, no where to check on the amount of decks in circulation, nothing. Since there is no single entity deciding the values (except baller declaring they're only worth 50 cents), the values are whatever the potential buyer decides.

Lets just look at the number of complete lies in your post here and then assess some of your comments.

It is a total myth that 'no one knows how many Jerry's nuggets are in circulation' in fact its open source information. Sure the exact figure is unknown, but that's true of any product that is not being produced, but there are a number of extremely credible ball park figures. Also, the type of person that buys these cards form E-bay or Lee Asher is not a real 'potential buyer'. They are a mark. A friend of mine has probably in the order of 5 bricks of genuine nuggets that he's amassed over the years and he has -never- paid more than $30 bucks for a deck of them, ever. It could be he's a serious card collector that knows other serious card collectors and thus isn't dependent on the general market (e-bay or various crappy sites) for his Nuggets. See there are really 2 markets at work here, the one that you are a part of clearly that believes the b/s, and pays whatever someone else in that same bracket of ignorance tells them to pay. then there is the collectors market, people like, Lee in all probability, who in no way shape or form paid anywhere -near- that amount for the cards. If he can obtain them for no more than 30 bucks a deck, why can't you? Is it that he has access to a magical market? NO. It's becacuse he is part of the market that exists for those in the know. So are these cards worth 150 bucks to a serious collector? NO. Are they worth it to Lee? NO. Are they capable of being turned into that to exploit the ignorant (who apparently will defend that ignorance) YES! Do you realize that in fact you could buy these exact cards in the gift shop in the casino until 1999? It was then that 40,000 were bought by the private collector. These cards haven't been invisible for that long (definately not 30 years, so sorry buddy, you could buy them for a buck fifty as recently as 10 years ago). (From the International playing card society web page if you're interested in actual factual information.) The remaining decks numbering at least that much again are circulating.


If someone is truly happy with their purchase, how are they not getting value for their money? Remember, it's your opinion they're being scammed, they might have a completely different outlook.

Are you serious? So someone buying snake oil, if they're happy with their snake oil hasn't been scammed? That is utter nonsense. They've still been scammed, its just a really good SCAM.


They won't necessarily be worth more just because they're rare. I could have one deck of cards with a picture of a turd on the back printed and sold on ebay, but it doesn't mean it will go for millions of dollars, even if I trademarked the design so people couldn't just have their own printed. Demand is the primary cause of price fluctuation, not supply.
Once again, this perception of rarity, or a special history is because someone bought up 40,000 decks of these cards. The magic community did the rest, guaranteeing his investment.



They say you know you have someone up against a wall in a debate when their only response consists of kicking, whining and screaming...

Have you ever considered that what you're seeing is exasperation that the people you are trying to explain basic historical fact to are just too pig ignorant to believe it?
 

baller08

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Demand is the primary cause of price fluctuation, not supply.

No? Then make up your mind. Are Jerry's "worth" that much cause they're rare or that they're old?

In one sentence its one way, then in the next it's another. You're so twisted by the nonsense you don't even know you've contradicted yourself 3 times in one post.


OneCardWonder just listed out facts that you can verify that goes against everything you posted. But that's the power of hype....brainwashing....even in the face of logic, people will want to hold onto their delusion because they can't accept that fact that they've been duped.

Lee and the true collectors are laughing all day at you fools.
 
Dec 22, 2007
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It is a total myth that 'no one knows how many Jerry's nuggets are in circulation' in fact its open source information. Sure the exact figure is unknown, but that's true of any product that is not being produced, but there are a number of extremely credible ball park figures
I'll believe it when I see it. Just knowing the amount of Jerry Nuggets in circulation doesn't translate directly into a price either, it can just debunk the idea that these cards are rare
Also, the type of person that buys these cards form E-bay or Lee Asher is not a real 'potential buyer'. They are a mark.
That's ********. Someone who wants to use Jerry's as a serious investment might seek out these $30 nuggets. Someone who wants Jerry's in huge bulk might seek out $30 nuggets. But someone who wants a few decks for personal use is not going to look under every manhole in New York City to find the one with the underground dealer. They'll use the internet and either accept the prices and buy, screw the idea, or just wait and hope they go down.
A friend of mine has probably in the order of 5 bricks of genuine nuggets that he's amassed over the years and he has -never- paid more than $30 bucks for a deck of them, ever. It could be he's a serious card collector that knows other serious card collectors and thus isn't dependent on the general market (e-bay or various crappy sites) for his Nuggets..
I'm not that impressed, seeing decks were going for $30 on ebay only as little as 5 years ago and going for a $1.50 10 years ago...
See there are really 2 markets at work here, the one that you are a part of clearly that believes the b/s, and pays whatever someone else in that same bracket of ignorance tells them to pay. then there is the collectors market, people like, Lee in all probability, who in no way shape or form paid anywhere -near- that amount for the cards. If he can obtain them for no more than 30 bucks a deck, why can't you? Is it that he has access to a magical market? NO. It's becacuse he is part of the market that exists for those in the know. So are these cards worth 150 bucks to a serious collector? NO. Are they worth it to Lee? NO.
A simple question, if this market that you're talking about is so accessible, why isn't everyone flocking to it? I'm sure people would rather pay $30 than $150.
Are you serious? So someone buying snake oil, if they're happy with their snake oil hasn't been scammed? That is utter nonsense. They've still been scammed, its just a really good SCAM.
If they were looking for snake oil and they're happy with it they haven't been scammed. If the snake oil has actually helped them, then no they haven't been scammed.
Have you ever considered that what you're seeing is exasperation that the people you are trying to explain basic historical fact to are just too pig ignorant to believe it?
No, this isn't a marathon, it's a message board. I made one post directed at him and was met with "pig ignorance" as I do not and have never owned a deck of Jerry Nuggets. I just don't believe anyone who has typed "Jerry Nuggets" in the search bar at ebay belongs in an insane asylum.

And baller, please get back to me when you can type with a level of coherency. Make up my mind? I'll spell it out for you. Jerry's are worth a lot because of the D-E-M-A-N-D. To try and identify one specific reason that everyone uses as a reason to pay so much for Nuggets is pointless. There isn't one.
 
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