Short-term memory loss

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This is a thought that I had after watching a variety of online magic and mentalism performances.

Do magicians suffer from some form of short-term memory loss?

In the clip below, Derren Brown is working on the streets, playing a game where he is trying to guess how much money is in random stranger's wallets. Now, Derren Brown is obviously a magic and mentalism icon, and knows what he is doing- but there was a small moment that stuck out to me as less than ideal.

With the first spectator, he writes his prediction on a card, places it in an envelope, and then has her count the money in her wallet.


He then helps her with the total (it's £35.36.)

As the lady puts her money away, Derren looks contemplative, and says, "I think I'm all right."

They open the prediction, and it's revealed that he was only 4 pence off, and he wins the game.

Maybe there's a reason for this that I don't understand, but to me, I see this a lot from magic performers, and it always sticks out to me as an incongruous moment. Even when it's from Derren Brown!

The magician knows what he just wrote, and the spectator also knows that the magician is aware of what the prediction says. Yet as magicians, we often play dumb, as if we aren't aware of what literally just happened a moment ago.

Sometimes, we play dumb like this to reinforce something in the mind of the spectator, by using them to aid the performer's memory. How many times have you seen a card trick where the magician asks, "And you chose the King of... Diamonds? King of Hearts, sorry, that's right. The King of Hearts." The magician is trying to stress to the audience the importance of their exact selection; but does this not make it all seem less important, since the magician themselves can't be bothered to remember the correct card?

Lennart Green will often do this, but he can somehow get away with it, as this appearance of inattention aids in the deception of clumsiness and haphazard chaos that he employs to great effect. He has many cards called out by the audience during his act, and he is forgiven easily when he "forgets" which card he is aiming for.

Often, playing dumb like this comes across as a fairly transparent attempt to separate the performer from some specific knowledge that could be damning. For a simple card force followed by a reveal, you often see the magician "forget" the identity of the selected card. This is meant to take heat off of the method (the force), but when it's done in an obvious or transparent way, it may actually point directly to the method.

For prediction effects, it is probably best to have an audience member read out the prediction using the cue, "Please read out what the prediction says for all to hear", as opposed to saying something like "And what does the prediction say?" You should know, you wrote it!

In the video above, Derren Brown had written his prediction about a minute before the final reveal. There wasn't time for him to forget the value he predicted, especially considering that piece of information is the most important part of the trick. The math wasn't difficult to know he was 4 pence off. Perhaps by taking the time to say "I think I'm all right", his goal was to make the trick seem less important, setting himself up in some way for the next part of a routine not seen. Or maybe he was just trying to fill the dead air while she put her money away.

Is there not a way for magicians to allude to the fact that their prediction is correct, before the reveal? "£35.36? Please open that envelope, and I think you'll find that I was less than 5 pence off..."

Whatever the reason, I think magicians need to consider that there are times when they're not doing themselves any favours by "playing dumb".
 

RealityOne

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In that routine, I think it is part filler as she is putting the wallet away and part to play that he is doing the math. Something better would be to say, "I didn't do half-bad" with a smile. That fills the space and builds suspense (what does not "half bad" mean?) without revealing the ending.

"And you chose the King of... Diamonds? King of Hearts, sorry, that's right. The King of Hearts." The magician is trying to stress to the audience the importance of their exact selection; but does this not make it all seem less important, since the magician themselves can't be bothered to remember the correct card?

That is used exactly as you said... to disguise a method. Again, better to say, "your card is the King of ...." and let the spectator complete the sentence. It provides the necessary cover (the performer wasn't absolutely confident what the card would be) but doesn't entail the performer making a mistake. Done right, it looks like the performer is just confirming with the spectator -- and they wouldn't confirm if it was a sure thing.

One of my maxims is that the performer should always be in control of the performance (unless, like Lennart your character embraces chaos). I agree that performance amnesia causes a little credibility hit.
 

ID4

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Do magicians suffer from some form of short-term memory loss?

He then helps her with the total (it's £35.36.)

Is there not a way for magicians to allude to the fact that their prediction is correct, before the reveal? "£35.36? Please open that envelope, and I think you'll find that I was less than 5 pence off..."

Whatever the reason, I think magicians need to consider that there are times when they're not doing themselves any favours by "playing dumb".

Of course they do, because it is a blanket question. It’s like asking “Do magicians breathe out carbon dioxide?”

I can’t tell if you’re serious or trolling, as if the total was as you stated more than once Derren Brown would have had to give her £100.00. Her actual total was £36.35 I’m assuming you mixed up the pounds and the pents and you’re not suffering from short term memory loss.

There may be a way, but doing it the way you describe lessens the climax.

In your opinion.
 
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