LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL, Aside From reading 13 steps, which was a great beginner book, there are very few routines in which I would use beside probably a white board pencil reading, I have worked with envelopes and it's not my thing as well as far as a swami goes not my cup of tea. I don't learn, as for what I have I have a few Bob Cassidy pdf's the "starter" pdf's, as well as max maven which I really haven't read a ton of. I have also purchased lectures and spent numerous hours, reading. I have purchased a few lectures through penguin magic, not for a single effect that was featured in the trailer but because I did my research and I liked a persons style, performance, as well as routines. And let's not forget the amount of articles I have read about how to improve a stage performance. Also to answer a few questions; Sincera when in the hell did I say I wanted gimmicks or dvd's I wanted some other sources besides what I already have which is most of what was posted here as well for the performers and books, and Mr. Steerpike i'm not a fan of you being a cocky A-hole, I love how on every single thread you go on a rant about how everything is just absolutely wrong, and Wyattsb your statements are just plain stupid instead of getting out panties in a wad over the internet especially on a FORUM, let's take a step back and look at the definition of a forum; Forum, Noun; A meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged... Would you look at that, I am looking for none more that to exchange ideas. Anymore questions you guys would like me to answer, I got all night.