Here is a story I want to share with you.
Mr A went inside a TV store, and asked what are the functions of a certain TV set. Mr A already has his own TV, but would like to know if the TV set from the store have more functions. He asked “What are the functions of this TV. Can it do this?” Then a group of guys just came in and beat up Mr A. The police see that there is obviously a problem and they have to solve it.
Can you guess the solution?
The solution is, the police sent Mr A to jail, for being the victim.
Doesn’t make any sense? Well it doesn’t make sense to me too. But a similar incident happened in the Ellusionist forum.
I know this might be a sensitive topic. This whole topic might just vanish into thin air. People will pretend that this thread never exist and nothing has happened.
However, I believe that this story has to be heard. People have the right to know what is truly happening.
Here’s what happened.
An E’s member hairyhaggler mentioned that he wanted to know more information about the E’s CTB before buying them. Another member Dai Hard said that he also want to know more before paying money for the effects. Nothing happened to this 2 people.
Ace85 (that is me) said that I agree with hairyhaggler and Dai Hard. I would like to know what the CTBs can accomplish before buying them. And I got bashed, when I was just echoing the concerns of the other 2 members.
Brodger post a message asking to ban me and said that I’m a “crazy nut”. Hiphopperco came in and said my CTB was an eyesore (Note that I did not even mentioned about my CTB in that thread). The chain effect follows and they just keep bashing me.
What did I do wrong there? I’m asking the same thing as hairyhaggler and Dai Hard. How come I’m the one that gets bashed?
I have no choice but to defend myself. Finally, everything is peaceful again.
But Matt, the creator of Bullet came back and started the fire again, asking me to “GET OUT”
The thread was finally closed.
A few hours later, I discovered my account was banned.
I noticed that people who posted offensive comments (like Brodgers, Irishghost, hiphopperco etc) are not banned.
I was puzzled.
Why was the victim banned?
I keep asking myself this question.
Question) Who will get banned?
a) People who post offensive comments (“crazy nuts” “JUNK!” “bite you in the butt” etc)
b) People who are victims of the offensive comments
Ans: b) The victim who did not use any offensive terms gets banned. That was fair wasn’t it?
a) People who go off topic and start arguments
b) People who try to defend themselves and try to get back to topic
Ans: b) The victim who tried to defend themselves against false accusations was banned. People who started the fire would not be banned. Of course, that was fair to the mods.
a) People who post offensive comments but support E’s product
b) People who don’t post offensive comments but is neutral about E’s product.
Ans: b) Of course we won’t ban people that support our product. They can do whatever they want. They can bash people, go off topic, and make personal attacks and false accusations. As long as they support our products, it’s ok.
I hope I can have a public apology from the Ellusionist, for the unfair treatment that I received.
To the Mods: I hope you would not close down this thread. I read the forum rules and understand that this forum believe in the freedom of speech. When we see that there is a problem, we will discuss the problem and find a solution. We don’t act like an ostrich, buried our head in the soil and pretend nothing has happened.
Something happened. And if there is no closure to this incident, the same problem will surface again.
Mr A might be in jail. But there are 100s and 1000s of other Mr As. You cannot ban them all. Banning the victim is not the way to solve problem.
Please let the discussion goes on. If possible, have a solution to this problem.
I believe in the theory11 forum.
Thank you.
Mr A went inside a TV store, and asked what are the functions of a certain TV set. Mr A already has his own TV, but would like to know if the TV set from the store have more functions. He asked “What are the functions of this TV. Can it do this?” Then a group of guys just came in and beat up Mr A. The police see that there is obviously a problem and they have to solve it.
Can you guess the solution?
The solution is, the police sent Mr A to jail, for being the victim.
Doesn’t make any sense? Well it doesn’t make sense to me too. But a similar incident happened in the Ellusionist forum.
I know this might be a sensitive topic. This whole topic might just vanish into thin air. People will pretend that this thread never exist and nothing has happened.
However, I believe that this story has to be heard. People have the right to know what is truly happening.
Here’s what happened.
An E’s member hairyhaggler mentioned that he wanted to know more information about the E’s CTB before buying them. Another member Dai Hard said that he also want to know more before paying money for the effects. Nothing happened to this 2 people.
Ace85 (that is me) said that I agree with hairyhaggler and Dai Hard. I would like to know what the CTBs can accomplish before buying them. And I got bashed, when I was just echoing the concerns of the other 2 members.
Brodger post a message asking to ban me and said that I’m a “crazy nut”. Hiphopperco came in and said my CTB was an eyesore (Note that I did not even mentioned about my CTB in that thread). The chain effect follows and they just keep bashing me.
What did I do wrong there? I’m asking the same thing as hairyhaggler and Dai Hard. How come I’m the one that gets bashed?
I have no choice but to defend myself. Finally, everything is peaceful again.
But Matt, the creator of Bullet came back and started the fire again, asking me to “GET OUT”
The thread was finally closed.
A few hours later, I discovered my account was banned.
I noticed that people who posted offensive comments (like Brodgers, Irishghost, hiphopperco etc) are not banned.
I was puzzled.
Why was the victim banned?
I keep asking myself this question.
Question) Who will get banned?
a) People who post offensive comments (“crazy nuts” “JUNK!” “bite you in the butt” etc)
b) People who are victims of the offensive comments
Ans: b) The victim who did not use any offensive terms gets banned. That was fair wasn’t it?
a) People who go off topic and start arguments
b) People who try to defend themselves and try to get back to topic
Ans: b) The victim who tried to defend themselves against false accusations was banned. People who started the fire would not be banned. Of course, that was fair to the mods.
a) People who post offensive comments but support E’s product
b) People who don’t post offensive comments but is neutral about E’s product.
Ans: b) Of course we won’t ban people that support our product. They can do whatever they want. They can bash people, go off topic, and make personal attacks and false accusations. As long as they support our products, it’s ok.
I hope I can have a public apology from the Ellusionist, for the unfair treatment that I received.
To the Mods: I hope you would not close down this thread. I read the forum rules and understand that this forum believe in the freedom of speech. When we see that there is a problem, we will discuss the problem and find a solution. We don’t act like an ostrich, buried our head in the soil and pretend nothing has happened.
Something happened. And if there is no closure to this incident, the same problem will surface again.
Mr A might be in jail. But there are 100s and 1000s of other Mr As. You cannot ban them all. Banning the victim is not the way to solve problem.
Please let the discussion goes on. If possible, have a solution to this problem.
I believe in the theory11 forum.
Thank you.
<-- wish we had these at E