Really this thread is getting nowhere, just some baby trying to make himself feel better.
I think it should be locked.
I think it should be locked.
Unfair treatment in E's forum
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Nothings going to come out of it at all just you coming off as a crying whiny baby. You said it yourself the mods at E aren't going to do anything about it. The only thing you'll do is, and this isn't a threat, possibly get banned here. Just stop worrying about what E did to you and make your CIB effect the best CIB to have ever existed.
ok so i went through and checked the E forums and dude your just pushing your products EVERYWHERE. I'd be pissed too. I went to your youtube demo and you repeat the terms "factory sealed" a number of times in your own personal comments. I get it, you do a version of factory sealed and want to sell it, thats fine. They are right though, the video was really horrible quality and you dont see ANYTHING happen. Perhaps the biggest part about the E issue is, you rarely if ever added anything to any post that wasn't after your own "sales" agenda... which they have the same goal too, but they actually pay to the forum and site and have right to do so. Could you imagine If I made a moving pips card slightly re-modified and tried to push it on the T11 forums?... thats just not right. Thats like me sitting in an automotive repair shop saying to everyone that walks in the door "ill fix your car cheaper and better" then complain when they toss me out... its their place and their service. Hope that makes sense. Just relax and maybe one day you'll be able to produce your CIB ... not CTB with a good video and it will get picked up, but we cant just have a great idea and no follow through, ya know? But keep it up man. "Creativity" is key... but the lock is "refinement".
His pushing of his product was not what caused the argument in this incident. It was saying he wanted to know more specific details before purchasing the effect.
Exactly
This is another trap to make me talk about my ***. I'm not going to fall for thie same tactic again.
If I talk about the ***, you would accuse me of advertising my *** here.
So I won't even type out the ***.
Please get back to topic. If you want to discuss about my ***, go to the *** thread.
Thank you.
And about the *** thread in Ellusionist, I did not promote my ***. Please read chainzero's post.
if AndyAce spent as much time writing a book as he does commenting and reading lengthy posts on the 385923325 magic forums hes on, he would be able to write a saga that is longer than Lord of the Rings, Wheels of Time, Encyclopedia Britannica, Harry Potter, etc. combined, times a million. For the love of magic, close this thread, please.
Thanks for counting.
For the love of magic, keep this thread open.
There is a problem with that website. We have to let other magicians (especially new and inexperience magicians) understand that.
You can see that there are more and more arrogant new magicians around. That is partly becuase the E's forum is sending them the wrong message.
They are telling people if you post offensive comment against others, you won't get banned as long as you support E. The victims of your post will be the one that gets banned.
This is not healthy for the magic community. If you love the magic community, keep this thread open.
There is nothing to hide.
But that was the point... this was not just one incident... it was a number of problems... starting with pushing his effect. Whatever, happened in that thread and was deleted and caused him to get banned probably wasn't a HUGE deal, but was the straw that broke the camels back. I'm becoming even more surprised that a mod or admin on T11 is letting this go on... it really should have been closed by now. I know ACE you'll have something to say like t11 cares and wants the truth out... but its just bad all around. Your ranting is not helping a community, its trying to split it up. If you push a mule your gonna get kicked.
also, if this is happening so regularly... please show us a link in which this injustice is happening to someone else. We need to help them too right?
also, if this is happening so regularly... please show us a link in which this injustice is happening to someone else. We need to help them too right?
Read my post.
And I'm not pushing my ***. Did you see me pushing my *** here?
Like what I said, show the poll thread!!
Show people if I really pushed my ***. Don't just make false accusations without any evidence.
The fact that they refused to show it shows that they are hiding something.
Well at least you were closed down at the Cafe with this nonsense. Hopefully T11 will follow suit and let people refocus on discussing magic.
--Jim
--Jim
My friend,
They own the site and the forum... you are now the individual that has something called "The burden of proof", not them.
Obviously the Cafe does not believe in free speech.
And the are trying to protect the Ellusionist.
I get your point.
E is the boss. They can bully anyone they want and there is nothing you can do about it.
I'm really very disppointed by all this.
Where is the justice?
I dont know if i should get you a super man cape or a noose for the martyr. "Justice" 
still dont see other links to where this happens oh so regularly? This really should be closed... and yes the magic cafe' is out to protect E... its a single conspiracy to shut you down and destroy your career in magic!
And you missed my point... YOU have the burden of proof. Where is the justice? where is the PROOF?
still dont see other links to where this happens oh so regularly? This really should be closed... and yes the magic cafe' is out to protect E... its a single conspiracy to shut you down and destroy your career in magic! And you missed my point... YOU have the burden of proof. Where is the justice? where is the PROOF?
Ace I know you are not trying to be funny but you finally made me crack a smile because I think you genuinely believe that everyone else is out to get you.
--Jim
It is comments like this that get threads closed down. This is serious. This is NOT a joke. If you want to joke go somewhere else.
I did not say that. That is your own interpretation.
I'm demanding Ellusionist to show the proof too. But they did not plan to show people the undeleted poll thread.
Why did they refused to do that? Just think about it! Because they are hiding something!
Don't ask the proof from me. Ask it from them.
I'm not saying the Cafe is out to get me. STOP putting words in my mouth.
I believe they would protect the various magic company. I can list a few other examples, but I woulg go off topic. If you are at the Cafe long enough, you should know what I'm talking about.
And you are right this is not funny.
Can the Ellusionist stop hiding?
Please come here and show the poll thread.
If you want people to believe that you did nothing wrong , show people the proof.
Stop hiding.
RJ gave his side, you gave yours and even a mod from E gave his... if thats hiding, I'm glad they aren't military. Look dude, it's over... I'm sorry your feelings were hurt, but its part of life. You may have both been a little wrong... or maybe not, we will never know. Casino's AND every other private business arn't always right, but they withhold the right to deny any customer they feel necessary for any reasons pertaining to but not limited to actions, attitude, and or status. You said your side and "warned" the newbies against the lurking E-vil... personally I disagree and think they are fine, just like T11, Penguin, Hank's... who ever. You said your say, and so did they, so lets close this thread and let lying dogs lay. (I shoulda' been a poet... or maybe a rap star!)
Yes the proof is your behavior sounds a bit how should i say...neurotic as someone described.
Can't say i disagree with that.
Here is the full scoop i found on the cafe.
Another thread LOCKED beause of your behavior.
Thanks Andy, for wasting more of serious magican's time.
Be one with your magic..not all over the place.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=230951&forum=177&start=0
Can't say i disagree with that.
Here is the full scoop i found on the cafe.
Another thread LOCKED beause of your behavior.
Thanks Andy, for wasting more of serious magican's time.
Be one with your magic..not all over the place.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=230951&forum=177&start=0
You are the one that keep asking for proof.
I'm asking the Ellusionist to show the proof, and you now said it is not necessary. You are confusing me.
No, it's not over.
If Ellusionist give me a public apology and lift, this thing will be over.
It would be fair to ban the real trouble makers.
Or they can show people the poll thread. Let people decide.
Once again, stop hiding. You cannot hide forever.
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