Whats That Trick Called?

[Simon_Magic]

Hi Guys!

What that trick called?

Its the one where your spec takes a card and you put it in the deck and its back changes colour, then you take it out to show and put it on the table. Then Someone chooses a different card and you say that its going to change colour as well, but when you search through the deck it hasn't changed, then you turn over the already revealed card and it has changed into the new one.

I need to credit it in a book Im writing and dont know who came up with it or what its called so any help would be awesome.

Thanks,

Simon_Magic

 

[CaseyRudd]

Hi Guys!

What that trick called?

Its the one where your spec takes a card and you put it in the deck and its back changes colour, then you take it out to show and put it on the table. Then Someone chooses a different card and you say that its going to change colour as well, but when you search through the deck it hasn't changed, then you turn over the already revealed card and it has changed into the new one.

I need to credit it in a book Im writing and dont know who came up with it or what its called so any help would be awesome.

Thanks,

Simon_Magic

It is mainly referred to as The Chicago Opener or the World's Greatest Card Trick

-Casey

 

[praetoritevong]

Hi Simon_Magic,

Let me give you the full history, which is correct to the best of my knowledge.

The trick is unofficially referred to, as popularised by YouTube, as the World's Greatest Card Trick. However, this is not its name.

It is referred to, officially, by two names - Red Hot Momma, and Chicago Opener, respectively.

Frank Garcia saw a Chicago magician by the name of Frank Everhardt perform the effect, and subsequently placed his version into print in his book Million Dollar Secrets under the title Chicago Opener, and hence where that name came from (however, he credits Everhardt by name in a subsequent book, Super Subtle Miracles).

The title Red Hot Momma was a version popularised by another Chicago magician, Jim Ryan, included in his offering Entertaining Card Quickies. Another popular version is Whit Haydn's Chicago Surprise (A combination of Garcia's Chicago Opener and Eddie Fechter's I've Got a Surprise For You).

However, I believe the actual creation goes back to a manuscript published by the late Al Leech in the 1950s, who subsequently taught it to both Frank Everhardt (from whom Garcia derived his version) and Jim Ryan. Thus the effect in its current form can be traced back and credited to Al Leech, whereupon the variations are built.

And yet, the story does not stop there (!).

Al Leech was probably inspired by an idea by Max Katz, who published it before Al did in MUM magazine.

And that, I believe, is a correct history.

To sum up:

Idea by Max Katz as Double Surprise (MUM magazine)
Basis of present form and first published version of present effects and variations by Al Leech (Manuscript - sorry, no idea of the name)
Taught by Leech to Frank Everhardt and Jim Ryan
Popularised by Frank Garcia as Chicago Opener (Million Dollar Secrets), who used a variation of Everhardt's performance, and Jim Ryan as Red Hot Momma (Entertaining Card Quickies)
And notable variations by many. Marlo, Racherbaumer, Haydn and Ammar are four that, through erroneous attributions either by them or by others of their works, add notable variations but nonetheless some considerable confusion as to the correct origins.

Actually, there is even more to the story. But, I think that that is enough for crediting purposes.

 

[WilliamMckeehan]

Hi Simon_Magic,

Let me give you the full history, which is correct to the best of my knowledge.

The trick is unofficially referred to, as popularised by YouTube, as the World's Greatest Card Trick. However, this is not its name.

It is referred to, officially, by two names - Red Hot Momma, and Chicago Opener, respectively.

Frank Garcia saw a Chicago magician by the name of Frank Everhardt perform the effect, and subsequently placed his version into print in his book Million Dollar Secrets under the title Chicago Opener, and hence where that name came from (however, he credits Everhardt by name in a subsequent book, Super Subtle Miracles).

The title Red Hot Momma was a version popularised by another Chicago magician, Jim Ryan, included in his offering Entertaining Card Quickies. Another popular version is Whit Haydn's Chicago Surprise (A combination of Garcia's Chicago Opener and Eddie Fechter's I've Got a Surprise For You).

However, I believe the actual creation goes back to a manuscript published by the late Al Leech in the 1950s, who subsequently taught it to both Frank Everhardt (from whom Garcia derived his version) and Jim Ryan. Thus the effect in its current form can be traced back and credited to Al Leech, whereupon the variations are built.

And yet, the story does not stop there (!).

Al Leech was probably inspired by an idea by Max Katz, who published it before Al did in MUM magazine.

And that, I believe, is a correct history.

To sum up:

Idea by Max Katz as Double Surprise (MUM magazine)
Basis of present form and first published version of present effects and variations by Al Leech (Manuscript - sorry, no idea of the name)
Taught by Leech to Frank Everhardt and Jim Ryan
Popularised by Frank Garcia as Chicago Opener (Million Dollar Secrets), who used a variation of Everhardt's performance, and Jim Ryan as Red Hot Momma (Entertaining Card Quickies)
And notable variations by many. Marlo, Racherbaumer, Haydn and Ammar are four that, through erroneous attributions either by them or by others of their works, add notable variations but nonetheless some considerable confusion as to the correct origins.

Actually, there is even more to the story. But, I think that that is enough for crediting purposes.

great post!!!!!