Hey everyone... I'm new!

Nickerus · Mar 21, 2009

Crissangelfan123 said:
What do you mean?

Like I said, buy the effect instead of trying to learn it from a kid with a webcam. The artist who spent years perfecting his effect will give you much more insight than a 10 year old with rich parents and a computer.

Dizzi · Mar 21, 2009

Crissangelfan123 said:
Thanks for the welcoming. I haven't heard of Derren Brown, does he have a TV show like Criss Angel?

He doesn;t have a show per sè, well he had one over here once but it wasn;t very popular. Deren Brown is a British mentalist who does stage shows a few times a year, not like Criss Angel's much more classy on a theatre stage. He has these stage shows recorded and then sells themn as DVD's I reccomend you look him up on youtube.

Steerpike · Mar 21, 2009

Crissangelfan123 said:
I would love advice then and thanks for telling me that tutorials aren't viewed very well by magicians.

I'm just glad I got to you before the real jackals in the community did. Tutorials and piracy are kind of a hot button issue right now and most people are taking very rigid black-and-white stances on it. It gets kind of ugly.

Crissangelfan123 said:
Good deal. I will listen.

Alright then. The keystone of all my advice is going to go back to two hugely important words: stay connected. I first heard these words from a mentalist named Bob Cassidy in his book Fundamentals. Since then, they have been repeated to me by my mentors every time I speak with them.

What this means is that to be a great magician, you need to connect with your audiences as people. You need to present yourself to them in an appealing way and you need to listen to them.

I've seen way too many magicians who make it all about them. They may as well just tape a mirror to their audience's faces. Do not make that mistake. Figure out who you want to perform for, find those people, and find out what commonalities you have with them so that you can do a show that they would want to see and that you would enjoy performing.

Dizzi said:
P.S.: Steerpike, do you mind if I use 'YouTube tutorials are to learning magic what a Swiss army knife is to practicing open-heart surgery.' in my sig?

Go right ahead.

Magic Man4293 · Mar 21, 2009

Steerpike said:
YouTube tutorials are to learning magic what a Swiss army knife is to practicing open-heart surgery.

Than you obviously don't know.... MCGRUBER!!!

-Michael

Nickerus · Mar 21, 2009

Michael Nasello said:
Than you obviously don't know MCGRUBER!!!

-Michael

HAHAHA!! I LOVED that! I will save this man's life.... after a quick pepsi break!

Crissangelfan123 · Mar 21, 2009

coolerdude0410 said:
Like I said, buy the effect instead of trying to learn it from a kid with a webcam. The artist who spent years perfecting his effect will give you much more insight than a 10 year old with rich parents and a computer.

Okay thanks. I geuss it makes sense. Maybe I will buy a trick then.

Crissangelfan123 · Mar 21, 2009

Steerpike said:
I'm just glad I got to you before the real jackals in the community did. Tutorials and piracy are kind of a hot button issue right now and most people are taking very rigid black-and-white stances on it. It gets kind of ugly.

Alright then. The keystone of all my advice is going to go back to two hugely important words: stay connected. I first heard these words from a mentalist named Bob Cassidy in his book Fundamentals. Since then, they have been repeated to me by my mentors every time I speak with them.

What this means is that to be a great magician, you need to connect with your audiences as people. You need to present yourself to them in an appealing way and you need to listen to them.

I've seen way too many magicians who make it all about them. They may as well just tape a mirror to their audience's faces. Do not make that mistake. Figure out who you want to perform for, find those people, and find out what commonalities you have with them so that you can do a show that they would want to see and that you would enjoy performing.

Go right ahead.

Thats a great start for me. Thanks a bunch! I look forward to more knowledge from you!

Dizzi · Mar 21, 2009

you get alot more bang for your buck if you buy a book. I would reccoemnd Royal Road to Card Magic, available here: http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/royal-road-to-card-magic-book-p-48.html

Nickerus · Mar 21, 2009

Crissangelfan123 said:
Okay thanks. I geuss it makes sense. Maybe I will buy a trick then.

You will get MUCH more out of the trick when you buy it. Believe me if you try to learn an effect from a tutorial then try to learn it from the artist on the DVD or book or even a PDF file you will realize why you should ALWAYS buy the effects.

lilstunna · Mar 21, 2009

watch this video like 10 times and maybe you will get some out of it.

http://www.theory11.com/beginners.php

Crissangelfan123 · Mar 21, 2009

kevin said:
woah slow down there buddy. Welcome to the forums, hopefully you get something out of it... If you picked up magic a week ago, then I suggest you find a local magic shop and go talk to the guy there. Buy some books on magic, get bored, and give up, or stick with it.

If you want to be just like chris angel, then I suggest you get a lot of money because camera tricks are EXPENSIVE! People 'round these parts don't really respect the type of magic chris angel does because of that- not that he's not a good performer. Any who, getting tricks for free off the internet is also a no-no. asking steerpike to make a tutorial for a trick that just came out on this website last night isn't a good plan. Buy your tricks. Be ethical. Also, backspace and go read the forum rules. No exposure of methods and all that jazz. It is a very amateur move to ask people here to reveal tricks to you, so don't ask. If you want to learn, take the time and the effort. It's not easy, and it takes experience.

good luck
kevin

Thanks, I didn't know revealing was bad.

Crissangelfan123 · Mar 21, 2009

Dizzi said:
you get alot more bang for your buck if you buy a book. I would reccoemnd Royal Road to Card Magic, available here: http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/royal-road-to-card-magic-book-p-48.html

Awesome! Thank you. Do you like the book?

Austin Fields · Mar 21, 2009

And for goodness sake can a mod change his user name??

Just tryin to help you out kid

~Beans

Guardian18 · Mar 21, 2009

You can even get Royal Road at Borders & Barnes and Noble.

http://www.borders.com/online/store/SearchResults?keyword=royal+road+to+card+magic&type=1&simple=1

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Royal-Road-to-Card-Magic/Jean-Hugard/e/9780486408439/?itm=3

Steerpike · Mar 21, 2009

Crissangelfan123 said:
Thats a great start for me. Thanks a bunch! I look forward to more knowledge from you!

Magic Man4293 · Mar 21, 2009

Dizzi said:
you get alot more bang for your buck if you buy a book. I would reccoemnd Royal Road to Card Magic, available here: http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/royal-road-to-card-magic-book-p-48.html

Someone like this wouldn't read they. They need the dvd version

http://www.zomadamagic.com/servlet/the-25/Royal-Road-To-Card/Detail

-Michael

Steerpike · Mar 21, 2009

Michael Nasello said:
Someone like this wouldn't read they.

A titch judgmental, wouldn't you say? Would it not be better to encourage literacy?

Austin Fields · Mar 21, 2009

You're going to learn this at some point, so heed these words

Criss Angel is a worse magician than about 65% of the people on these forums.

~Beans

P.S. You'll also learn that Steerpike is the man. End of story.

Guardian18 · Mar 21, 2009

Michael Nasello said:
Someone like this wouldn't read they. They need the dvd version

http://www.zomadamagic.com/servlet/the-25/Royal-Road-To-Card/Detail

-Michael

Yes, but that's MagicMakers. Bleh.

Crissangelfan123 · Mar 21, 2009

Beans25 said:
And for goodness sake can a mod change his user name??

Just tryin to help you out kid

~Beans

Why do you not like Criss Angel????