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Did you just read the thread title and then decide to rant? The thread is specifically about how this argument is stupid. I have proof that's bullsh*t. I stopped reading past this point because if you have to resort to hearsay and stuff you made up, you have no argument.

Do you have actual examples? And maybe it's not the argument, maybe the thread just sucks.

Not really sarcastic. Just vague. In time, you'll learn not to take anything I say at face value. Either way, I gave you an answer. Make of it what you will.

Well if all you're going to do is take me literally....

Did I ask?

Same reason I leave the house. I think some people just have a problem with authority. Doesn't matter how magnanimous you are, ever rebel without a clue still wants to stick it to The Man.

I'm going to go against the grain and say I'll just stick with the Raven. I'm also keeping the door open on the possibility of the Black Widow, but that's it.

And what exactly are the wrong reasons? Frankly, I'm all in favor of them toughening up around here. It would probably help if they appointed a few more of them too.

People will believe what they want to believe, so long as it remains convenient for them. Theory 11 has been built on hype just as much as Ellusionist. They just don't target beginners the way E does. They both sell the same type of single trick DVDs for about the same price. They use viral...

Glass houses, friend. Could have been a lot of things. Could be the acting, could be that there wasn't enough build-up to condition them, could be that they just didn't want to accept such a thing as even remotely possible. Lots of reasons they wouldn't believe.

And? Either way, if he waited to ask the question on the E forums tomorrow morning, I somehow doubt the time of day is going to affect it much. It's still kind of silly to point at a typo and call the person that made it a liar, no matter what position the sun is in.

They also judge whether or not an effect fits in with the corporate culture. They've made their name through a distinctive and highly selective line of products. Something a lot of people overlook in business is corporate culture. That said, your modus operandi, short-term goals, and...

Profit is the acquiring of revenue. Prophet is a lunatic or substance abuser telling vague stories about what the future will bring. That out of the way, a vanity project works best of there's a certain standard of quality that it has to abide by.

So it's a collective vanity project, then? I'm just trying to pin this down. The "goals" you've told me are too vague to be counted as actual goals. More like general ambitions.

So a business then?

That doesn't really explain it to me. What's your goal with this?

Lying isn't really the correct word here. The first one is a mistake, but if you owned the DVD you would know that technically they do teach both the coin production and a throw vanish. Regardless, I think most people are intelligent enough to figure out that was a simple mistake. As for the...

The thought never actually crossed my mind until you brought it up. I'm sorry... what? That was a really contrived way to brag about your percieved writing abilities. And if you are a writer, why do you type like this? A rich man doesn't need to tell you he's rich.

(quietly decides to take his attempts at being funny out back and put them out of their misery)

More like, "I had no idea I could piss off this many people at the same time."