Randy - still the same. Well Randy, I don't know what to say. I mean, telling me "if" isn't really sharing your presentation. Actually, I have seen this presentation used by too many people. I find it a bit like saying the reason a bill floats is because you suck in really hard...nobody believes it, as the effect does not support the premise. I think tihs is one of the reasons when you get done magic, people say..."oh, my kids would love this", rather than giving the art the respect it deserves. As for you saying Sponge balls are "lame" and "rather silly". I can agree they are "silly", if you mean fun. Lame - well, many magicians consider having a spectator open their hand to find two sponge balls to be one of the strongest moments in ALL of magic. The reason I intro'd them into this forum...was not because they are "lame" - but because they are difficult to justify. Also, why I gave the easy out of colour changing deck...now that we got the easiest of easy out of the way. I look forward to reading the other submissions. You get an E for leave this forum and go to Ellusionist.