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Sandwich Routines!

praetoritevong

praetoritevong

Nov 20, 2007
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Sydney, Australia
Ben...

Your video was done well. The sleights were pretty good, and so was the presentation. Kind of. Well, I'll be honest. I didn't really buy it. It just doesn't sound right. When I listened to what you were saying, I really liked the presentation. When I listened to you saying it, I didn't like it so much. Give me a reason for telling a fairy tale, and it would work. I don't really know how to explain it better than that.

Harry (or should that be Bob)?...

I like your videos. It also has presentational issues, but very different ones. When you play a fool, and/or mess up a trick on purpose, the problem is that most people don't do it well. You do it excellently. I laughed most when it still didn't work after you put the deck down. There was so much expectation, it worked brilliantly. Most importantly, it was believable. The issue I have with your presentation is the other stuff. You start off dictating what you're doing, and it created a bad first impression of your presentation (If I hadn't watched your other videos before, I would've stopped watching then).

Also, I mentioned this last time, you have a habit of playing the fool in half the presentation. Although I like how the trick is structured overall, it doesn't make sense to do an acrobatic sandwich that looks impressive as your first phase.

And finally, there were a few too many inside references for my liking. "We'll make sure the card really is in the center this time" - doesn't work for me because of what it implies about the first phase, although magicians will understand how that references the trick.

Who won? I don't care, to be honest... Congratulations on both putting out good videos.
 
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harrybob222

Jan 19, 2009
124
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well it can be ... harry....Or bob.... wow im reasonable.... thanks for the response and i am still worring on this, i am creating a new video now because youtube made me remove it for an unknown reason :/ ..... i shall try and keep the foolyness throughout and not skip from serios to fool (if thats what you meen)

and thanks for the advice about the 'inside references i do know what you meen :D
 
praetoritevong

praetoritevong

Nov 20, 2007
4,410
6
Sydney, Australia
Well, if you do divert from the fool, just make sure you have a good reason and that it's a deliberate choice. But yeah - that's what I meant. In general, you need to be consistent with such a distinctive character.
 
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harrybob222

Jan 19, 2009
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praetoritevong said:
Well, if you do divert from the fool, just make sure you have a good reason and that it's a deliberate choice. But yeah - that's what I meant. In general, you need to be consistent with such a distinctive character.
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thank you i shall most defonatly try this more and work on what you mean :)
 
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mitchellmac2

Nov 7, 2010
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I vote for ben because he kept the trick moving well enough. Even though I didn't really like the patter I thought that it was just quick enough to keep the audience's attention and still apply the good effect
 
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obama5493

Mar 22, 2011
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praetoritevong said:
Ben...

Your video was done well. The sleights were pretty good, and so was the presentation. Kind of. Well, I'll be honest. I didn't really buy it. It just doesn't sound right. When I listened to what you were saying, I really liked the presentation. When I listened to you saying it, I didn't like it so much. Give me a reason for telling a fairy tale, and it would work. I don't really know how to explain it better than that.

Harry (or should that be Bob)?...

I like your videos. It also has presentational issues, but very different ones. When you play a fool, and/or mess up a trick on purpose, the problem is that most people don't do it well. You do it excellently. I laughed most when it still didn't work after you put the deck down. There was so much expectation, it worked brilliantly. Most importantly, it was believable. The issue I have with your presentation is the other stuff. You start off dictating what you're doing, and it created a bad first impression of your presentation (If I hadn't watched your other videos before, I would've stopped watching then).

Also, I mentioned this last time, you have a habit of playing the fool in half the presentation. Although I like how the trick is structured overall, it doesn't make sense to do an acrobatic sandwich that looks impressive as your first phase.

And finally, there were a few too many inside references for my liking. "We'll make sure the card really is in the center this time" - doesn't work for me because of what it implies about the first phase, although magicians will understand how that references the trick.

Who won? I don't care, to be honest... Congratulations on both putting out good videos.
Click to expand...

well it can be ... harry....Or bob.... wow im reasonable.... thanks for the response and i am still worring on this, i am creating a new video now because youtube made me remove it for an unknown reason
 
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Marc-Antoine Denis

Apr 9, 2012
40
0
Montreal
I really enjoyed Ben's sandwich effect! However, I would like to point out that it isn't 100% original : James Brown came up with a similar trick years ago, in his DVD ''Fancy a Pot of Jam''. A selected card would appear on the back of the spectator's hand, using a rubber band. The pop out move is identical, but I personally prefer Ben's version, using the sandwich rather than a single card.


Marc-Antoine Denis
 
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