Hey guys, I agree that Garcia and Houchin are not the only creators in the world. And I agree that there is with out a doubt people, that we all have not clue who they are, that have created stuff that would really be amazing. So I guess what I am saying is out of all the creators out there that are making money from the effects that they create, and releasing them...Garcia and Houchin are on the top of this magic game right now. And if you dont think Madison has strong effects its probably because you have not read enough of his .pdf's. Oh, and as far as mentalism is concerned I agree that Luke Jermay is probably on top right now as far as creators in that area. But when it comes to mentalism, the strongest effects, in my opinion, the creators keep to themselves for long .. long... loooong time.