There is no such thing as "real magic".
There is not? So what is it then?A trick? No that's impossible!
Laymen/"How can someone pull a lady in half with tricks,I clearly saw him cutting the black guy ,it wasn't a trick,the only possible explanation is that he has the powers to hypnotize people in a second and then cut their pain sensors or something. I saw blood and everything.And when he levitated there were no strings around he also walked on a building and water,he swears that is not fake,that what you see is what you get,well I saw magic,At first I thought maybe is a.camera edit or a staged but he said no so its real magic"
btw.the rub a dub vanish was horrible(for the card in the head one)
There is a major difference between saying "I'm going to do some magic" and saying "I really can speak to the dead." Major, major difference. One is to entertain. The other is to exploit.
No Jim entertains,I was entertained
Its there a difference when Angel is saying " I can really walk on water,levitate,and turn water to wine" and criss Angel saying "Im going to do some magic'?
If you can't see that difference, if you honestly can't, then I don't think you should be performing, or you're going to get scammed. In fact, it sounds like you already have. Sorry.
First of all Jim Never said that,And i don't see how that has anything to do with me performing or getting scammed.
No one actually believed that he cut open a person.
No one?really?Are you everyone? he did cut him, I saw him do it,No camera tricks so its real.
if they did, why wasn't he arrested?
He wasn't arrested because criss cured him with his demon powers.
Obviously
No, there is a difference between performing a trick and saying you have powers.
Really what difference?Inst levitating or flying a power?walking on walls?super strength,telekinesis? Wait that sounds like superman and spider man,so they have no powers then.
If you go up to Criss and ask him if he had powers and why isn't the man dead, etc, I'm sure he's say that it was a trick, not that he has supernatural powers. Any performer worth her or his salt will say the same thing.
so you want every television viewer to go to Vegas,find criss and ask him that?Well why dont you go find Jim and ask him the same thing.Im pretty sure he will say its all entertainment.It says it all over his site,If people are stupid enough to believe then let them,criss doesn't do that,he actually claims that is all real right before every "magic" demonstration.
But, here's the difference: JIM DID say he had powers. On live television.
No he didnt,he was just getting into his "magic" persona.
Quote--VW=it's the kind of trick that loses a lot more entertainment factor if you come up and say: "Actually, I won't really be getting possessed, I'm just going to moan and make strange movements". Look. Some people enjoy being fooled. Some people go a little further and enjoy this sort of paranormal/occult kind of things. Jim does what he does for entertainment, he doesn't ask people to pay him so that they can talk to their dead relatives.
He's on the show to promote himself, sure, but he is not there to prove he has "Magical Powers".
Well it sure does look like it.
His show is to freak you out. (Hence the name, "Mindfreak"), you can do that without any powers whatsoever.
freak me out.....Really,How about make every magician look inferior by doing special effects and acted out scenes and then passing them as :real" acts of magic.And dont say he doesnt because in every episode he supposedly does something completely impromptu, like separating a woman in half and sticking his head trough her stomach,Who the *** is going to do that in real life.When a real magician performs a simple magic magic trick they are immediately bashed because they cant do something completely ridiculous lik Angel,
"can you crawl on the wall or walk on water"NO"aw you suck then"Criss Angel...blah blah bl;ah"
...and it seems like he does his job well. You seemed to be freaked out by the "cutting the man open to get the card" trick.
Im not freaked out at all,I mean A rub a dub vanish?Either the people are blind or they are really **** to miss that from that angle.
Jim said specifically that he HAS THE POWER OF TALKING TO A DEAD PERSON. On top of that, he names that person. That is quite, quite different than simply performing a trick.
No he didnt and you obviously know nothing about mentalism. Definition=Creation.If he dosnt say that he has no effect, no effect = no entertainment,no entertainment-=no show.
Jim was clearly trying to improve his chances of winning
No ****. its a competition after all
by trying to exploit people's emotions.
nope,by doing something entertaining and scary.
We are all liars. That's my point. But the reason why we lie makes the difference. For example, in my shows, I actually say to my audience, "I am going to lie to you for the rest of the show." and you know what? They are still amazed.
Oh so you are a Criss Angel kind of guy,so how much do you pay them to "enjoy" the show.do you later edit the show an say "this is all real,what you see it was you get"
When we perform, we are doing the same thing without actually saying it. It's understood that there is no "real magic" happening to get the card from the middle to the top, or cut a person to get the card. The audience knows that they were fooled, and on top of that, enjoys the experience.
First of all you cant compare a card trick to a special effect and you cant think for everyone either.When I do an ACR I dont tell the audience "Im not using sleight oh hand,this is all real," and besides how can you compare ACR to walking on water o levitating 79ft above the air?
But once you say "I have powers" and I mean say it, especailly on national television,
Like Angel does every week
you are saying that you can do what science can't explain. You are above science, you should be revered in awe, (or sent money to) because you are beyond human.
Superhuman? isnt that the name of an mindfreak episode.Can science explain walking on air,levitating,walking on a building{walls},walking on water,going trough a glass window,age advancement,deja vu{time reversal},ect.
And he has the nerve to say "im the only magician to have ever blah blah blah"puting himself up there as if it were all true
And there are desparate, gullible people who will give anything, (way more than just simply paying for just a show), to have their real pain and suffering aliveated by a false hope. That is a more than lieing. That is exploitation.
And your point is?
someone performing a trick means that they have supernatural powers. Most people are intelligent and reasonable and know that they've been fooled.
Most?so you meet all of them,and here i thought you were just making assumptions
But, HE DOESN'T SAY OUTRIGHT THAT HE HAS POWERS.
so he does but not outright,see i knew you would understand.
Are you telling me that people should believe you have powers because you can make a card appear at the top of the deck? Please.
No im telling you they should believe I have powers because im doing what jesus,superman and spider man do.You cant compare a card trick with miracles(camera edits}
Criss has NEVER said he has "real magic powers".
If he rules out logical explanations right before a magical act...what is left?
Yes it was. And that's why he deserved to be taken down right there. Because he is setting himself up to be able to exploit people.
No he just wanted to give the people a very good performance,raven liked it
Let's see Jim talk to my dead grandmother.
i dont think he does that sort of thing,it says on his website.Oh and lets see criss angel walk on my pool ans levitate over my car,lift it up too.
if he could do that, then I will agree with you. Until then, I say that Jim is more interested in exploiting people's emotions and beliefs to his own advatange
No hes an entertainer,performing//using real methods
he's not claiming that he can do those things for a fee to everyone. For example: if GuyOne performs a trick that makes a woman younger, and asks people pay for seeing that trick. But GuyTwo performs the trick and says "I can make you younger too, just send me money and with my power I'll make you younger".
This never happened,what are you talking about,Jim never asked for money XD
Nope. I won't stop saying what I said about Jim. He started it. He's trying to back off now, but as I've stated before, he's not going all the way. He's still attacking Criss. Why? Because Criss exposed him for the fraud he is. I feel that if Criss didn't call him up, Jim would still be claiming he can talk to the dead.
he always had those disclaimers.and Criss is a bigger fraud,anybody will tell you.
Should've had the integreity to not go down that path in the beginning. He's changing his tune only because he's been called on it. And he's mad that he had.
Wrong
First of all, I am not religious. And religion is the biggest exploiter of people on the planet. But that's a whole other topic.
angel is the biggest exploiter on the planet.
The reason i didnt do this earlier is because I was in class,Art Class.not because I was ignoring it.