TeeDee – thank you for responding, although I am not sure why you did. You seem to feel that your presentation has no flaws, so there is no room for improvement. Even if your character is a gambler, like Ortiz, I feel the topic of magic and gambling should be separate – both principles actually hurt each other – showing skill hurts the concept of pure magic and doing magic makes people think...well, why did you learn to second deal if you are magic? It is an oxymoron that you can overlook at your own peril. You say it works for you - and feel that this is your character, so be it; however, I ask you this – why do you feel that there is no room for growth, as I have seen MANY use gambling as the reason...but really, there is on message there. You could use that same empty patter for a TONNE of effects...I would love to hear exactly what you say, for when I have seen it, it comes across as mouth noise and bull$hit. You are presenting magic as gambling demo, and honestly – you didn’t deal with the weaknesses yourself, you just shared a plot, and then defended its greatness. So, this thread is not for you – continue pawning off a “great” presentation – as I have seen more original plots from sequel horror flicks.
To clarify one thing - when I said the effect wasn't engaging, I didn't mean it wasn't interesting - but it is a demonstration...and even though you can have them involved, the magic is about them watching you...and Ammar talks in "Making Magic Memorable" that people don't recall what they see - as much as what they are experiencing first hand...I was talking about the gambling approach not having that inherently, when I talked about it not being engaging. I also think - "How did you do that" is an auto response to WTF or I that is impossible – and that you may not be using the term “managing” your audience properly if you think that has anything to do with the theme you chose to present your ACR with...actually, I hate the term “managing” as it infers control – while I would rather allow for freedom and interact with them as people...rather than manipulating them like props.
Blahblah – Please no videos - and honestly...I don't know where to start with your simple post...it is very misguided. You should read more, post less on this one - you have much to learn on the topic of what hecklers are, how to make your magic better, and not hiding behind your venue. I will give you this - there is no such thing as "street magic" as it is just you bothering people walking by, you are like the squeegee kid of magic when you do this. However, this doesn't mean you can't do a professional presented effect...as people won't rush off if what they see is worthwhile, and they realize you are a pro on all levels...so street magic doesn't have to be done with few words and you attempting to freak them out - you just think it does because that is what you saw on TV. So realize that you have room to grow - and listen more.
Hope you both enjoyed some turkey - thanks for posting.
To clarify one thing - when I said the effect wasn't engaging, I didn't mean it wasn't interesting - but it is a demonstration...and even though you can have them involved, the magic is about them watching you...and Ammar talks in "Making Magic Memorable" that people don't recall what they see - as much as what they are experiencing first hand...I was talking about the gambling approach not having that inherently, when I talked about it not being engaging. I also think - "How did you do that" is an auto response to WTF or I that is impossible – and that you may not be using the term “managing” your audience properly if you think that has anything to do with the theme you chose to present your ACR with...actually, I hate the term “managing” as it infers control – while I would rather allow for freedom and interact with them as people...rather than manipulating them like props.
Blahblah – Please no videos - and honestly...I don't know where to start with your simple post...it is very misguided. You should read more, post less on this one - you have much to learn on the topic of what hecklers are, how to make your magic better, and not hiding behind your venue. I will give you this - there is no such thing as "street magic" as it is just you bothering people walking by, you are like the squeegee kid of magic when you do this. However, this doesn't mean you can't do a professional presented effect...as people won't rush off if what they see is worthwhile, and they realize you are a pro on all levels...so street magic doesn't have to be done with few words and you attempting to freak them out - you just think it does because that is what you saw on TV. So realize that you have room to grow - and listen more.
Hope you both enjoyed some turkey - thanks for posting.
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