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    Thought of Card In Envelope Plot

    "Pocket Index" ... originator... umm... dunno.
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    What do you do?

    Why should they care? Your presentation should force them to care, to be on your side, to want you to succeed. Eh, you could always just walk away and pretend it never happened.
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    What exactly does Derren Brown do...?

    Ummm... how would you describe an apple in one word? Juicy, sweet, tasty I'm sorry, but he's all of them.
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    Disgrace or Amazingness?

    Why are you guys getting so mad at this guy? Maybe his effects aren't possible. so what? They're still great pieces of magic.
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    Downs Palm, Advice Plz

    Well if you tell someone "ooh, can you see the coin?" they're obviously going to see it. It's not even suppose to be there, why would they even be looking for it? And usually the back of your hand is towards them for downs palm, so the closed fingers hide the coin.
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    Silence Matrix -- Eric Ross

    How is that a flaw? And by the looks of it, there are no gimmicks...
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    Disgrace or Amazingness?

    Why does it even matter? He's fooling us, isn't that the point? He's providing "magic for magicians." We're entertained, and we're his primary audience. He's just doing his job as magician, albiet using methods that we're not used to, like editing. How is that different from a video that uses a...
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    Giving IT Away

    But there's a quandry there- if you restrict all or most magical knowledge to already experienced magicians, how do people get started in magic?
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    Are there things too strong to do?

    Hmm. Well you wouldn't have to do anything illegal to accomplish the effect. You wouldn't even be killing anybody. It's an illusion, but a powerful one to say.
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    Are there things too strong to do?

    Maybe it's just my wicked mind, but in the other day I was thinking in the shower- what would prove beyond a doubt that i have magic powers? And I thought and thought and then I figured it out. I would kill someone on the other side of the world by conducting a ritual. The spectator could...
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    Are there things too strong to do?

    I think so.
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    Nyuck...Nyuck...YUCK!

    If you use dual reality, the spectators will probably talk after the show- then the jig is up.
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    Nyuck...Nyuck...YUCK!

    So, you're disapproving of dual reality as well? (see point 2) If the instant stooge is someone you know you can trust, and you apply some of Kenton Knepper's techniques, it should be fine. This type of effect is as powerful as it gets.
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    Naturalness vs. Visualness

    We could do both- retention vanish, but do it casually without looking at your hands. That way, its great to people who don't look at your hands, but still OK to those who do.
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    Coins?

    Silver dollars will cost you twenty dollars and upwards.
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    Mentalism Hecklers

    You better have a pretty foolproof peek though. Center tears are out of the option, and even justifying taking the paper back could take lots of thought.
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    Release of New Effects?

    You perform. That's how people get famous.
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    Release of New Effects?

    But why would you release material unless you were good enough to be "known" in the magic community?
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    Cups and Balls Thread - Ideas and Concepts

    Another question- chop cup or no chop cup? Obviously it depends on the routine you're doing, but if you can only carry around one set...?
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    Mentalism Routines

    You have to pretend you suck with cards. You shuffle overhand, perhaps even dropping cards once in a while.
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