Dude would you please stop talking for others? And yeah.. until now I guess we all know your posting history when it comes to CIB/CTB effects. This is basicly your "routine". Asking questions in order to slowly but surely expose another CIB/CTB. I saw you exposing other CIB in some comments on youtube. What exactly are you trying to do andy? What? Infact I wonder when exactly you will come the point when you present "Oh.. btw I invented a CIB as well. Here is the demo video". So please stop acting like the innocent victim here. I think you are perfectly aware of why your appearence in a CIB/CTB thread isn't a pleasent thing for some members.