Nice job for quoting what tudor said in showoff 3 while he was on crack. Now would you do us all a favor and leave. Oh and mods please ban him.
Flourishes, especially really complicated flourishes. As Daniel Madison said, after people see you do a couple of D&D flourishes, they won't be really amazed from the fact that you can control a card to the top.
Flourishes are becoming very popular
If you disagree then you don't know
I don't know about you guys But I've seen a lot of people doing flourishes.
Every year it becomes more and more popular.
If people are out there manipulating these cards with no effort
producing the aces with a bunch of flashy moves
what is a laymen going to think?
What is he going to think when he sees you?
Is he going to ask you to show him some of them?
Is he going to think you are not as good as the other guy because you cant do a sybil ect.
Or is he going to say thats not magic,I saw some other guy.....And the cards....
Wouldn't that be awesome
Then people would lay off the comedy.
No really
Laymen don't understand Flourishes,They see cards and they immediately think Magician.
If you cant do these flashy moves then you are not as good as someone who can to them.
If flourishes become super popular then Old School Magicians will Have to accept and learn them.
So what do you say guys lets start flourishing everytime we can.
Lets face it
Magic doesn't exist,Laymen know that
so you might as well take credit by ShowingOff(vol3) your skill with cards
Saying something like "Flourishes ruining magic?" could also work the other way as "Magic ruining flourishing?" They do not affect each other at all.
Ok
If Flourishes become Huge, I mean like everyone is doing them
What are laymen going to think.
When laymen See Flourishers they immediately think magician.
Some people like to believe that the audience believes that what they are doing is magic
Which is cool but its not really like that
When people get used to seeing flourishers they will understand that what they are doing is card manipulation
When they produce the 4 aces in a flashy way, or shuffle the deck and the deck is in new order, or when you place the cards in the middle and they jump they wont see it as magic.
When they see a magician doing some ACR they wont see them as magic either
I rather take credit than the deck but some people like the Whole Magic deal.
Magicians don't present they're cards as "magical".doofus.(for need of a better word)
"I rather take credit than the deck"
of course thats your conjection
you just got done watching showoff 3 and your gonna be convinced of that till you decide to grow up and then move on to some other wacky thing.
This are all my thoughtsI wonder if you have any thoughts of your own on this matter?
or is that your thing, you come into a forum and recite some obscure passage brian tudor said and pawn it off as your own?
Ok
If Flourishes become Huge, I mean like everyone is doing them
What are laymen going to think.
When laymen See Flourishers they immediately think magician.
Some people like to believe that the audience believes that what they are doing is magic
Which is cool but its not really like that
When people get used to seeing flourishers they will understand that what they are doing is card manipulation
When they produce the 4 aces in a flashy way, or shuffle the deck and the deck is in new order, or when you place the cards in the middle and they jump they wont see it as magic.
When they see a magician doing some ACR they wont see them as magic either
I rather take credit than the deck but some people like the Whole Magic deal.
Then what do they present the cards as
Because the magicians Ive seen re too afraid to show Skill
SO they let the Credit go to the deck
Excuse me? Please, name a magician that's too afraid to 'show skill'. With a video example.
Why would I let the deck take credit for all the work im doing
The deck doesn't make the card rise to the top
I do
This could be said about other forms of magic too. Effects that are "performed by the spectator", for example. The magician knows it's him that's doing all the work, but the presentation says otherwise - the spectator takes the credit. However, the rest of the audience knows, in their heads, that it is in fact the magician making everything happen, therefore, the magician does in fact get the recognition for the "magic". The same principle applies to when magicians "let the deck take the credit". Like you've said countless times in this thread, the audience knows magic doesn't exist. So why would they believe in magical cards? They don't. They know it's the magician performing the miracle. So he can present the trick in any way he wants, and unless he's got a very gullible audience, he'll end up receiving credit.
Sorry if that didn't make much sense, it's very early in the morning.
This are all my thoughts
no one is making me think like this
It's "These are all my thoughts". Unless, of course, you only have one thought in your head. Which I can quite easily believe...
Flourishes are becoming very popular
Magic doesn't exist,Laymen know that
so you might as well take credit by ShowingOff(vol3) your skill with cards
Flourishing is completely different to magic, they're just 2 things that use the same tools.
It's like saying that clowns are ruining roulette games.