A question for every magician?

Oct 2, 2008
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Any pendulum effect can be done at any time because what is a pendulum but a suspended weight. Hypothetically, a small iPod suspended by the headphone cord could suffice. I would at least try to make the effect organic at least by giving some relevance to the iPod.

Look up Richard Webster's "Pendulum Power for the Psychic Entertainer" to learn more.

Thanks friend.
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Sep 1, 2007
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At least put a little effort in trying to understand what I am saying. And the analogie works very well if we would say magic=sport and cardistry=tennis for example.

Too much of a stretch.

If you were to say that people should lift there head from that every now and than and take a look around to see what else is out there, I definitely agree with you but still I there is nothing wrong with specialising in something.

There's a difference between specializing and being so bloody dependent on pasteboard that you're sunk without it. This isn't the Vaudeville stage. This is the 21st century.

Calm down dude.

What makes you think I'm frothing at the mouth with net-iquette Nazi rage right now? Was the very fact that I criticized someone enough to conjure up nightmare images of me with glowing red eyes and blood-soaked talons, hissing my vitriolic condescending remarks through sharp, yellowed teeth as I climbed out of a pit of tar and infant's tears?

You'll get over it.
 
Mar 15, 2009
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If I had no cards, coins, gimmicks, or anything like that on me, then I would perform David Copperfield's Arm Twist, Joshua Jay's Hand Scam, the Balducci/King Rising Levitation, an impromptu levitation of a spectators item, and multitudes more - the possibilities are endless.
 
Sep 15, 2007
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What makes you think I'm frothing at the mouth with net-iquette Nazi rage right now? Was the very fact that I criticized someone enough to conjure up nightmare images of me with glowing red eyes and blood-soaked talons, hissing my vitriolic condescending remarks through sharp, yellowed teeth as I climbed out of a pit of tar and infant's tears?

You'll get over it.

Welp, you criticized me with the whole CAPS thing so.... Lol. Sorry.;)
 
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Jan 1, 2009
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I'd like those who think it's sad that people enjoy cards to look up Dai Vernon or Ed Marlo. Both of those guys specialized in card magic till their dying days. I know this pissed Steerpike off but I don't care. Bill Malone also makes a killing by doing card magic (he charges like 50k a show.) There are also a ton of other guys who specialize in card magic and make a killing doing it. So those of you who say "I think it's sad that people like card magic." need to have a reality check and keep your damn ego's back in the barn.

Now as for the original question. Probably a simple psychological force of a number or whatever.

Also Darwin Ortiz. Jason England. Steve Forte. Jami Ian Swiss ( I think.). Alan Ackerman. And pretty much a ton more, just so I could hear or "see" Steerpikes head explode like that guy on Scanners.
 
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Ok guys, Cedric's here. I'm putting myself, as well as the rest of you on the spot. If you were caught off guard, lets say totally unprepared:

A spectator comes up to you and ask you to perform a quick effect for either them or their group of friends, and at your disposal are no coins, no cards, no gimmicks or anything, what effect would be your "ACE" to help salvage the moment??? If you have one, list here.

The answer to your question is Never. If you are even remotely serious about making something for yourself in magic then you should always be able to do 30 mintues out of your wallet. At the very least.
 
Jan 1, 2009
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Also another thing is that you shouldn't HAVE to perform for anybody if you don't want to. If you let people decide when you perform (besides when they pay you for a gig.) you are pretty much letting them pull your strings and saying "Dance puppet, Dance!"
 
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If all esel fails (which it won't because I always have a deck of cards and some coins) I would do the 360 degree arm twist (no idea what it is called) or Control by Wayne Houchin. Fantastic impromptu effect, but it wants some building up. Not really your average quick trick
 
Sep 1, 2007
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I know this pissed Steerpike off but I don't care.

Reading comprehension it seems is a dying art. I said this is not the Vaudeville stage anymore where one specialization to the exclusion of all else can carry a career. The era of T. Nelson Downs and (early) Howard Thurston has passed.

It's also worth noting that not all of your examples actually support your cause. Dai Vernon was a well-rounded close-up performer. He did not specialize in cards to the exclusion of everything. If I recall correctly, Ed Marlo also did not do magic for a living as he was an incredibly dull and clinical performer. Darwin Ortiz also does not perform for a living.

So those of you who say "I think it's sad that people like card magic." need to have a reality check and keep your damn ego's back in the barn.

No one actually said that, so quit your crying.
 
May 4, 2009
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If I recall correctly, Ed Marlo also did not do magic for a living as he was an incredibly dull and clinical performer. Darwin Ortiz also does not perform for a living.

I doubt that everybody on this forum does magic for a living. I personally dont for example. :p
But anyway I get your point and mine is simply: If you are dependent on cards, have cards with you all the time (which is not "sad"!) or tell them that you`re out of mana. If you dont depend on cards, well great for you and dont bother about the cards (althou you might be able to do even more stuff than and a pack of cards seriously doesnt take up much space ;))
But just dont look down on people who might be dependent on cards.
Thats ego-crap.
 
I'd like those who think it's sad that people enjoy cards to look up Dai Vernon or Ed Marlo. Both of those guys specialized in card magic till their dying days. I know this pissed Steerpike off but I don't care. Bill Malone also makes a killing by doing card magic (he charges like 50k a show.) There are also a ton of other guys who specialize in card magic and make a killing doing it. So those of you who say "I think it's sad that people like card magic." need to have a reality check and keep your damn ego's back in the barn.

Now as for the original question. Probably a simple psychological force of a number or whatever.

Also Darwin Ortiz. Jason England. Steve Forte. Jami Ian Swiss ( I think.). Alan Ackerman. And pretty much a ton more, just so I could hear or "see" Steerpikes head explode like that guy on Scanners.
though i'm not sure, but i don't think thats what they truly mean. I think they mean that its sad that if all a magician does is card effects, and nothing else. I think thats more on the line to what that he meant.
 
I doubt that everybody on this forum does magic for a living. I personally dont for example. :p
But anyway I get your point and mine is simply: If you are dependent on cards, have cards with you all the time (which is not "sad"!) or tell them that you`re out of mana. If you dont depend on cards, well great for you and dont bother about the cards (althou you might be able to do even more stuff than and a pack of cards seriously doesnt take up much space ;))
But just dont look down on people who might be dependent on cards.
Thats ego-crap.
totally understand your point as well....i think in the magic world, those who are more well rounded than others tend to look down on the one dimensional performers....that i don't think is fair....we all should embrace each other's performances and be helpful by example and instruction to those who lack in certain areas....
 
I would perform my own effect "PHONEY"

http://vimeo.com/4332629

An Original Effect Although Using An Old Principle, I Twisted This Little Effect To Be Modernized And Impromptu For LIFE After Only One Literally 5 sec. Set-Up. This Is Something I Am Definitely Adding To My Set. All Of The 5 Items Can Be Borrowed As Well. I Present.... "PHONEY" By: Zac M. Eckstein
kool effect zac....
 
Just never get caught without a deck of cards!!!! You should have a deck on you all the time! They are also good backup if you run out of toilet paper while on the road. :rolleyes:
That said, if you really dont have any gear on you yeah well as already mentioned i might do a good old balducci or use the opportunity to test (and probably fail) my muscle reading ability. :eek:
i'd rather take my chances with rembering to have toilet paper...but yeah i get yoru real point..
 

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Ghost Bills is Andy's, Stigmata V2 was on Wayne Houchin's DVD explaining the concept and applications.

It's worrying to see so many people saying that they'd just psyche force a number... It doesn't work like that, use it in a routine - read my Anate booklet, that focuses around a linguistic number force, but there is much more to it.

A psyche force is a method, not an effect.

D.
 
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