You know what bugs me about this whole thing is they announced TOOC many months ago and then just went silent about it. T-11 should be giving us updates, and usually they do, but for this, nada. And this is the kicker: when we ask about it they give us a 1 liner like: "when we know, you'll know, stop asking about it" - and that just doesnt cut it. For example, If Sony announces they're putting together the biggest and best TV ever in Sony's history and then never said another word about it for 9 months and told everyone not to ask any questions, they'd have a lot of pissed off people - the customers of Sony And T-11 deserve better then that. It's been pushed back, thats obvious, but why not make a post stating that and a scheduled new release date (summer 09? etc) why do we have to drag it out of you? There are a lot of people excited about TOOC, but that excitement is quickly being replaced with frustration.