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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by stoneface, Aug 9, 2010.
Found this image on a Vegas news site. I thought it was appropriate to the thread.
Hmmm, wonder why Luke Jermay's paypal account was shut down in the first place that he had to use rob's??
Those of you who subscribe to MAGIC magazine there is an entire section on Luke, but I have not read it yet because I am reading the Jason England article right now on playing cards.
I just want to let you guys know that i emailed Luke 3 days ago about my $2000, and have not gotten a reply. I sent a message to both of his email accounts asking for a refund which i rightfully deserve, but he doesnt have the care to reply - let alone give the refund!
I find it sad that we get told theres going to be good news yet nothing seems to happen. I find it as equally sad that he is still being supported and a part of theory11.
That is very disappointing to hear, especially in a field that puts so much emphasis on ethics and anti-piracy in order to make sure the creators are given what they absolutely deserve for their creations. It's not often the situation is reversed though. Whether it's unpaying customers stealing from creators, or creators stealing from paying customers, it's very disappointing to hear about. That's $2,000 you could have used dozens of way to help you better your magic or your business. That's $2,000 you could have invested in business cards, a website, or to other creators that would have given you something of value for your money and actually helped you further yourself in your craft.
Doesn't seem at this point it's going to be resolved, but I hope it does.
I hear so many bad things about Luke that I wonder to myself, can't anyone report him?
Honestly, if I lost 2 grand from him, I'd contact someone about this scam artist at work.
Enough is enough.
Like I said, Dick Move
If he ripped you off for two grand, you should really contact a lawyer.
That is what you call a true friend. When a guy comes on here and admits he had a hand in it (even though unwillingly) and offers you either a refund from his pocket or an e-book with a $20 dollar value.
Draven, you should photoshop a LOL cat into that picture.
I would had I any skill in photoshop. But alas, I'm afraid I don't.
Ahhh darnit Draven! I was so waiting for the LOLCAT! No worries, it will be up sooner or later when another thread is ready for it.
I'm looking into putting $200 aside for Photoshop CS5 - Student/teacher edition. If i can get that, i'll do it. I used to use photoshop all the time..
I am so glad I wasn´t scam for 2000 bucks...I am not that nice..I would have chase him to the end of the world and make him pay me...and also sue him for his house and everything...
To the guy that got scammed. I think you should be taking legal action. Obviously Luke Jermay thinks hes invincible so maybe the courts will think differently.
I e-mailed Luke at the e-mail address that JB provided Friday 8/13/2010. It's only been 5 days since then so I don't think an appropriate amount of time has passed to make any judgement calls on this yet. Let's wait 30 days and see what happens.
I got the above E-mail from Rob yesterday. All I can say is thank you Rob for coming here and telling your side of the story. I don't think it's fair that you would have to pay out of your pocket for what happened. From what you are saying, no one even received the lecture notes promised. This is contradictory to what Luke said in his e-mail to JB stating that some people did not receive the notes because some of the e-mails bounced back.
That's all the news from my end so far.
Edited post!! word count!!
@ the $2000 scammed guy. Contact your local police department who will contact the FBI. It is wire fraud and grand larceny. Which is a felony. I doubt they will extradite him, but he won't be coming back to the US as his passport will be flagged. Make sure you have your ducks in a row or you'll end up like Blago and get convicted of lying to the FBI.
What would you expect JB to do? I think he's done all that he can. There's not much you can do in terms of legal action, as he's in the UK, and I'm not sure if he's a US citizen.
Guys, we can talk and talk and talk and talk all we want about this, but face it, Luke probably isn't going to respond unless he gives us an excuse. All JB can do is tell Luke about the complaints. Until Luke solves this himself, we pretty much have no say in this. Pretty much all we can do is wait.
The dood that got hosed for 2 grand can go to the police. It doesn't have anything to do with T11, JB or anything. It is a product or service that was promised and not delivered. The guy has legal recourse.
Just because he's not a US citizen doesn't matter. If you go to the UK and mug someone you're still going to get in legal trouble. They may just send you back to the US, but you won't be going back to the UK ever. Now, mugging is a minor crime.. but a felony in the US is not. You lose all sorts of rights and privileges.
If you don't contact the police after getting ripped for 2 grand you're just silly.