Theory11 logo printed upside-down on bottom of tuck,
clear wrapper thread seal,
High relief on embossing
Low relief on embossing
"U.S. Playing Card Company" on facing right side of tuck.
"High Quality Playing Cards" on facing right side of tuck.
tuck is vertically sealed on reverse.
I am most interested in the (my) version 1.1 - Is this the first version as I named it, or is it one of those original Gold Monarchs that were of very limited nature.
I keep my decks sealed, so must it be opened to know such a thing?
This would indicate one of the first 2-3 printings. This does not mean FIRST Printing. This was flipped pretty early on in the lifecycle of the Monarchs.
This changes ALL THE TIME, and indicates nothing. We have swapped back and forth on this multiple times based on availability.
This has not changed.
This is a relatively recent change. This means your "1.2" deck is much newer than your "1.1" deck.
What do you mean here? Are you talking about the cellophane? If so, it means nothing. Changes depending on how the machine was set up during packaging, can vary inside of the same printing.
So.... your info tells me that this is PROBABLY what I would call a 1.0. Your deck was printed before we made any major changes. Doesn't mean it was a first printing, it means it was a very early printing.
I'll repeat it here as I do everywhere else. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE on the outside of a Pre-release Monarch deck and a 1.0 First Edition Monarch deck. None. Period. Anyone who says there is a difference is lying or ignorant, and I can say this with absolute surety. These two decks share the same tuck cases (from the same printing), the same seals (from the same printing) and were wrapped with the same cellophane in the same manner. There never were intended to be two different decks - we printed everything, realized the cards weren't what we wanted, and then reprinted the cards. The only difference is the cards, sealed away inside the box.
I will say this - the chances of you having the Pre-Release deck are nearly zero. Everyone who purchased a deck knew that they had a super rare deck. If they got rid of it, they sold it for $$$. If someone else bought a deck, they bought it for $$$. These aren't mixed up int stashes of normal Monarchs - these are locked away in hard sided protectors.
I'll do a regular Monarch fact sheet soon.
Lyle, I’d love to see some info on Steampunks. I put up a post asking for some deets if anyone has them. Seems like there’s a few variations, but not sure if they’re official “Versions”. I’m also curious to know if one purchased a Steampunk directly from you guys, if it’s 100% identical to the decks currently distributed by USPCC. This stuff is so fascinating!Hey everyone,
I've seen a lot of questions lately about some of the older versions of our decks. I am guessing this is mostly coming from new collectors who want to get their hands on some of the variants that no longer are available for sale. It is cool that there is traffic out there for some of these older decks, but with that traffic comes LOTS and LOTS of completely bogus info. Things like:
"There were only 27 decks printed!"
"The early version has the seal a half inch to the right."
"The original printing used a really bad stock, but the newer printings are on the best stock ever!"
"That version used gold foil on the cards."
For the theory11 decks you choose, I am going to dig out whatever factual information I can for you about those decks. Monarchs are a good example - there are MANY variants of Monarchs, and lots of conflicting information. I'll be creating a rock solid reference for you, essentially. I will edit this post with links for all of these posts as I complete them. Note: Per usual, I will not be discussing quantities printed unless theory11 has already released that information publicly.
I've worked for theory11 for theory11 on staff since 2011, as a forum moderator for a couple years before that, and have been a form lurker/member since the beginning. If theory11 has a deck of cards, I either watched it release (in the first couple years) or I had a hand in actually bringing it to life. I was right there in the thick of things with the Pre-Release Monarch stuff, and have been personally pulling the levers for all of our deck printing for several years now.
So, the big question. What theory11 decks do you want info on?
The Monarch Collection
- Monarch NYSM2 Edition
- Monarch EMP Edition
On the list for future fact sheets:
Artisan Black and White
List of All theory11 Decks
Lyle, I’d love to see some info on Steampunks. I put up a post asking for some deets if anyone has them. Seems like there’s a few variations, but not sure if they’re official “Versions”. I’m also curious to know if one purchased a Steampunk directly from you guys, if it’s 100% identical to the decks currently distributed by USPCC. This stuff is so fascinating!
I just picked up (Magically) an “Ellen Deck”.
Am I special, Lyle?
Also, quite interested in info on those 4 Versions of the SteamPunk Decks.
By any chance, are the “Blue Tycoons” a “Garbage Edition”? Or did I just get an unlucky deck....?
You are a Saint.They aren't really "rare", they are just hard to get, and there aren't many of them out in the wild at the moment. That said, most people don't have one yet, so of course you are!
Definitely not a "garbage" edition. Printed with the same care and using the same materials as every other t11 deck. Defects happen though, so contact support at https://www.theory11.com/support if you have a defect.
What is your thought on this?
For ordinary Monarchs, as is the case with nearly every USPC-made and -sealed deck, I'm pretty sure that the tear strip would appear on the LEFT side of the box when looking at the front of the box.
I have some Hudson decks that are not teal. When placed next to teal decks they look more like a clay grey. Is this just a quality control issue with the box printing?